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    Calvinism And Predestination

    That interpretation turns the same discussion in Ephesians ND Romans on it's head. Sorry man, but your not interpreting this correctly.
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    Calvinism And Predestination

    They site their sources so you can check them. You don't. So yes, I will trust their SITED SOURCES over your nonsense. Provide the documents and your case is made.
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    Calvinism And Predestination

    You cannot provide a single verse in all of scripture to support your above conclusion. And (as I've pointed out before) you are horrible at exegeting scripture. You take single sentences OUT OF CONTEXT and twist them. Honestly, it's disgusting. But let's run with you idea, shall we? Christ...
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    Calvinism And Predestination

    Someone else already linked to a source that completely destroys your argument. The document quoted from is inaccurate. Please see the above link. Also, the charge of sodomy is anal sex. You can feel free to look that up too. In France the technical charge includes phalacio, but is by no means...
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    Calvinism And Predestination

    Where in Deuteronomy did God say that all babies go to heaven? Did we forget about Adam's sin, the sin credited to everyone before they were born? In fact, I'd say that the free will advocate is in a worse case. No baby has a chance to make a free will choice for God, so that would mean that...
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    Calvinism And Predestination

    I'm glad someone else already answered this with an actual historic answer. This type of slandering is truly shameful. To not even bother to get your historical quotes.......just wow. I won't defend everything Calvin did or taught. I don't love using his name to describe my theology. But...
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    Calvinism And Predestination

    No, the verse says now that you know God, or are known by him. Paul is saying that now they claim to be believers, which would mean they are known by God, but he calls that into question by their slavery to the law. In other passages, where Paul is teaching specifically on God forwknowing his...
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    Calvinism And Predestination

    Again you quote a single sentence removed from it's context. Why anyone thinks this is the proper way to read the Bible is beyond me. Here we go. Formerly, when you did not know God, you were enslaved to those that by nature are not gods. But now that you have come to know God, or rather to be...
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    Calvinism And Predestination

    This wasn't directed at you, read the post this is responding to.
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    Calvinism And Predestination

    And you misrepresent us. It a shame you don't have a valid argument and have to result to blind insults. What do you think your Lord thinks of you lying about and insulting other people?
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    Calvinism And Predestination

    Can we please move the kjv debate somewhere else? This thread is to answer questions about calvinism. Thank you.
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    Calvinism And Predestination

    Please read my above response and stop twisting the word of God. Whoever does not mean what you say it does. And read the entire passage for crying out loud.
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    Calvinism And Predestination

    This system is not dependent on Calvin. He can be wrong on some things. The man is human. But it is what scripture teaches. Clearly.
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    Calvinism And Predestination

    That is taught clearly in Romans 9. Mercy and hardening. Clear as day
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    Calvinism And Predestination

    He foreknows people. "Those whom he foreknew". My point is that the object is persons, not details or events. That what the passage says. You are saying that God foreknows people after they are saved? That seems backwards. It says God forwknows them, then predestines them for a purpose, then...
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    Calvinism And Predestination

    I made a longer reply to magenta earlier in this forum. Feel free to read it. But I recommend reading the passage provided. It should clear this up some :)
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    Calvinism And Predestination

    Is there anyone here that knows how to read? Honestly this surface level, single sentence exegesis is embarrassing. You call yourselves Christian's and you cannot even read the Bible properly? Let's try this again. No one has ascended into heaven except he who descended from heaven, the Son of...
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    Calvinism And Predestination

    They are not out of line at all. I commented about your public posts, which I read, and made application. This has nothing to do with who you are, but your failure to exegete the scriptures properly. I still ask that you leave. You didn't come back to answer my critique, or provide sound...
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    Calvinism And Predestination

    Or he read the scriptures and saw that Jesus says we are not able by have faith without being drawn and that faith is a gift. It's funny that you accuse someone of projecting on good while you project on them. In fact it is quite hypocritical and doesn't answer any of the texts provided. That's...
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    Calvinism And Predestination

    Great question man. It is a rhetorical question to the Israelites. The point he is making is that He gave them everything they could ever need to be a godly people and yet they weren't. So He will do to them what any vineyard owner would, He'll destroy it and start over. God knows what the...