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Sorry Grace - sometimes I'm too exuberant in defending my position. I know there are so many beautiful believers who believe in the pre-trib position, and I am in the minority in my mid-trib thinking so please forgive me if I have offended you in any way. We are just trying to do our best to...

Mat 24:9-12 “Then they will deliver you to tribulation, and will kill you, and you will be hated by all nations because of My name. “At that time many will fall away and will betray one another and hate one another. “Many false prophets will arise and will mislead many. “Because lawlessness is...

Great input, Omegatime!!! I'll have to take a look at this - thank you!!!

Do you not see the contradiction in your own statement, Nehemiah? You claim that His Second Coming has always been imminent and not preceded by any tribulation period, but you assign the Second Coming to a time before the tribulation. But His coming is tied to tribulation as 2 Thessalonians...

I would simply say that my understanding of the purpose of the Resurrection/Rapture is different than yours, Nehemiah. You believe that the time of Jacob's trouble is in the first 3.5 years of the tribulation, and I believe it is in the second 3.5 years of the tribulation: after ha-satan is cast...

I'm noting that in either one of your diatribes, Nehemiah, you have not provided me with a single verse that supports the Pretribulation position. That's because your position is eisegetical and not exegetical - you impress your belief on the scriptures rather than draw it out of the text. This...

I am being facetious, Grace because the Pretribulation position is baseless. Like the song goes: My hope is built on nothing . . . and the song ends there! There is NO scripture basis for the Pretribulation theological position and the verses in Revelation 7:13-15 and Revelation 20:4 prove it.

It is a baseless hope!

OK, well . . . good luck with that! They are rounding us up as we speak.

Those who hold the pre-tribulation rapture position, usually site 1 Thessalonians 5:9 "For God has not destined us for wrath, but for obtaining salvation through our Lord Jesus Christ" But this verse cannot possibly refer to Christians suffering here on earth, because Christians have been...

For those interested in the topic of The Heavenly Tabernacle, I've put a mindmap together of many of the verses on the following sub-topics: - Messiah and the Earthly Temple - Ecclesia's destiny is the Tabernacle - Elements of Temple / Tabernacle in Revelation - 10 Celebrations of Worship in...

The 144,000 may have been tasked with evangelizing the earth, but there is nothing in the text of Revelation that would suggest this. Certainly, there is no literary tie between the 144,000 and the multitudes of saints that came out of the Tribulation in Revelation 7:9, 10. Both of these groups...

Jesus returned to the waters of the Jordan River for the final time when he traveled from the headwaters of the Jordan River at Mount Hermon, where He was transfigured (see Matt. 17:1-7), and then down to Bethabara Beyond the Jordan (see Matt. 19:1), where He preached His last sermon. (see Matt...

Hey CorrectiveLens Always delighted to meet someone who enjoys Hebraic Roots studies. However, I would suggest that the definition you have provided on mikveh is not sufficient. Mikveh was not just used for ceremonial cleaning, it was used for the consecration of the Priests in preparation for...

I'm not reading with any kind of Bias - I have read the whole thread and you seem to be backing up now from a hard-line perspective that you articulated in the beginning that studying escatology is just a waste of time. It's right here in black and white!

Isn't the book of Revelation the only book of the Bible the promises blessing to those who read aloud and hear it's content? "Blessed is the one who reads aloud the words of this prophecy, and blessed are those who hear it and take to heart what is written in it, because the time is near." (Rev...

The book of Hebrews discusses how Christ is now the High Priest in the order of MELCHIZEDEK, and the Heavenly Tabernacle from chapter 5 to chapter 13, and here we find specific references throughout the book of Revelation regarding the Heavenly Tabernacle / Temple in Revelation 3:12, 7:15, 11:1...

I would suggest that the 10 celebrations of worship are: 1) Revelation 1:10-16 2) Revelation 4:8-11 3) Revelation 5:8-14 4) Revelation 7:9-12 5) Revelation 8:1-5 6) Revelation 11:15-17 7) Revelation 12:10-12 8) Revelation 14:2-3 9) Revelation 15:3-5 10) Revelation 19:1-6

I’m working on my 4th book called, “The Heavenly Tabernacle” in which I’m advocating a new, or let’s say “less explored” grand theme of the book of Revelation. So many Bible scholars and students of eschatology focus on the unraveling mysteries; such as the meaning of the number 666, or who...