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  1. J

    And the SMOKE of their torment...No eternal damnation for anyone, except the Devil

    I never understand, no ECT because God not cruel than believe ECT for devil and false prophet? so, you believe if God do ECT for devil not cruel, but if apply for other human cruel? inconsistence isn’t it? I repeat this question more then 3 x nsver unswerving
  2. J

    And the SMOKE of their torment...No eternal damnation for anyone, except the Devil

    Death can only physical, that is why death rich man able to fell thirsty
  3. J

    And the SMOKE of their torment...No eternal damnation for anyone, except the Devil

    Eternal punishment imply soul eternally conscious
  4. J

    And the SMOKE of their torment...No eternal damnation for anyone, except the Devil

    The wage of sin is death, satan sin, so satan death, and you believe death mean cease to exist why you believe satan and beast not cease to exist?
  5. J

    And the SMOKE of their torment...No eternal damnation for anyone, except the Devil

    i don’t know if pillow of salt permanent, is it still there? But her soul is permanent
  6. J

    And the SMOKE of their torment...No eternal damnation for anyone, except the Devil

    Good, so you believe Lazarus and rich man death, but they are still exist, the rich man express his thirsty felling, not cease to exist
  7. J

    And the SMOKE of their torment...No eternal damnation for anyone, except the Devil

    It say eternal punishment, not eternal death
  8. J

    And the SMOKE of their torment...No eternal damnation for anyone, except the Devil

    αἰώνιον ; eternal what do you think the correct translation
  9. J

    And the SMOKE of their torment...No eternal damnation for anyone, except the Devil

    punishment is singular, but the Lord put eternal before punishment, mean never ending
  10. J

    And the SMOKE of their torment...No eternal damnation for anyone, except the Devil

    On physical perspective but the rich man that die with Lazarus know he need water
  11. J

    And the SMOKE of their torment...No eternal damnation for anyone, except the Devil

    Remember the story Lazarus and the rich man? both die, the rich man still have felling, he fell agony not cease to exist
  12. J

    And the SMOKE of their torment...No eternal damnation for anyone, except the Devil

    what dictionary you use that say eternal punishment cease to exist? what part of Quran say eternal punishment, I am from Muslim country, I know little about their teaching though not expert, to my knowledge Muslim base on what you do
  13. J

    And the SMOKE of their torment...No eternal damnation for anyone, except the Devil

    Eternal mean never ending eternal punishment mean never ending punishment why punish unconscious soul? SDA say God is love, SDA say because of love, He will not put people into eternal punishment It's strange that he doesn't believe in God's eternal punishment but believes Satan is...
  14. J

    And the SMOKE of their torment...No eternal damnation for anyone, except the Devil

    definition of perish suffer death, typically in a violent, sudden, or untimely way. not cease to exist
  15. J

    And the SMOKE of their torment...No eternal damnation for anyone, except the Devil

    You not aware why devil lie to you, if you know that it is lie than you not believe it tell me why you dont believe eternal punishment as say in Matt 25:46