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    Doesn't Living Like the Devil After Being Saved Disprove Once Saved Always Saved?

    Because of the edict from Caesar that demanded that the people of rome to worship him as a god. Christanity as well as judaism took issue No. Everyone of them died a martyr save one and he was banished to a prison colony/island. Because rumor has it that they tried to boil him in oil but he was...
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    Doesn't Living Like the Devil After Being Saved Disprove Once Saved Always Saved?

    regardless of how they are written, this is what we are responsible for.Remember the parable of the talents, in that each servant was judged based on what they did with what they where given. It is not up to us to decide how the writers of the bible may or may not have been influenced by rome...
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    Doesn't Living Like the Devil After Being Saved Disprove Once Saved Always Saved?

    Great use of condescending supposition.. However it is not consistent with what Jesus says in mat 25. Perhaps in your own theological frame work the term "will be in the body of christ." Means something other than at that moment of being "saved" (Identified/judged as being a "sheep) you will be...
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    Did Jesus Himself Bear Fruit?

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    Doesn't Living Like the Devil After Being Saved Disprove Once Saved Always Saved?

    IDK it kinda literally says that. mat 25 literally says: , Jesus "The Son of Man" will literally judged all nations (The Whole World) and separate them into two groups. His desired sheep, and un desired goats. Welcoming the sheep into His kingdom and to the Goats He says: 41 “Then the...
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    Did Jesus Himself Bear Fruit?

    So sought and I responded with: I'm just asking.. Why not just simply say "to grow?" Isn't the idea of exegesis to take something complicated and make it easier to understand? Why use a word to bring more complexity to a discussion unless you are trying to put the discussion out of reach of the...
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    Doesn't Living Like the Devil After Being Saved Disprove Once Saved Always Saved?

    Indeed, as what is being judged is whether or not you being a member of one of those many nations, is whether or not you are saved. Not in dispute. But at some point a judgement was made to determine who is and who is not in the body of Christ. That day of judgement is described by Christ...
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    My apologies, I'm a little confused on faith right now. How Is Christianity True?

    Because all deserve to Go to Hell, but not all are sent. yes. If you had a kid, and you knew that for 100% sure that if you sent Him away to military school he would literally be the best version of himself, and would be a man that would someday save this world.. But He had to have life...
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    Harvesting of the Earth

    when Jesus comes back He is not coming as another sacrificial lamb (Nice guy turn the other cheek etc..) He is coming at the head of an angel army to take vengeance on the Beast and all who are left that worship Him. Because in rev 6 and 7 we learn that the whole Church (Gentile church) is...
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    Which of Jesus teachings do you reject, personally, socially, economically or politically?

    It is unlikely jesus made a cracker's whip. (A whip that makes a pop) too much time and material needed for that. how ever a hand full of leather straps about 3 ft long tied together would only take minutes to make and would move people and animals alike out of the court yard. Not to mention...
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    Which of Jesus teachings do you reject, personally, socially, economically or politically?

    I don't know that I reject any of his teachings. However the one action that stands out as being the opposite of what I thought Jesus to be, was the whole make a whip and the beat and kick over the money changers tables.. Yes I get why, and don't get me wrong I have no problems beating people...
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    Doesn't Living Like the Devil After Being Saved Disprove Once Saved Always Saved?

    Our discussion had nothing to do with works based salvation If you remember. I simply point out that because salvation is not a work, (that means we can not initiate the salvation process. ) we are not saved in this life. That salvation is determined by Christ on the day of our judgement. The...
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    Doesn't Living Like the Devil After Being Saved Disprove Once Saved Always Saved?

    argued by who? The text is clear, these condemned men presented a list of works to Christ to try and justify their salvation. No other proof was offered. So there is nothing to argue contextually. Jesus in luke 11 tell us how to obtain eternal life. A simple disagreement in what I said would...
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    Doesn't Living Like the Devil After Being Saved Disprove Once Saved Always Saved?

    Irrelevant. The point made is Jesus judges who who is, and who is not saved. Our efforts in initiating the salvation process is not the water shed event of our salvation. This judgement of Christ's is consolidated on a given day. (In this life or the next ) Mat 7's teaching is one of three...
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    Doesn't Living Like the Devil After Being Saved Disprove Once Saved Always Saved?

    You missed the bigger point. I am saying that we are not saved when we initiate what we think is the salvation process. Me mentioning the sinners prayer along with several other examples where Christian believe their salvation begins is actually not when salvation starts. Funny, I looked at...
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    Does Hebrews 10 say if we willfully sin after being saved there is no more forgiveness?

    Your last post consists of two logical fallacies. 1.straw-man argument. You have recreated my position in something you feel more comfortable arguing. Nothing you said here accuratly repersents my position of any thing you have brought up. 2.Red Herring: A red Herring is when someone drops...
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    What should we do to prepare for the rapture?

    The Bible really does not say anything specific about where the Antichrist will come from. Many Bible scholars speculate that he will come from a confederacy of ten nations and/or a reborn Roman empire (Daniel 7:24-25; Revelation 17:7). Others see him as having to be a Jew in order to claim to...
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    Doesn't Living Like the Devil After Being Saved Disprove Once Saved Always Saved?

    point 1; Again the present tense states that salvation is the result of the gospel. "You are saved by the Gospel." This passage is not saying once you accept the gospel in that moment you are saved. it is saying the good news is Jesus has made it possible for his followers to not be condemned...
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    Doesn't Living Like the Devil After Being Saved Disprove Once Saved Always Saved?

    Yes. Salvation does not happen when the individual decides to be saved. Only Jesus is in a position to decide who is and who is not saved. Jesus in mat 7 says that decision is made "On that Day"/Day of judgement. Not when you pray the sinners prayer, or get baptized or get confirmed or anything...
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    Does Hebrews 10 say if we willfully sin after being saved there is no more forgiveness?

    IDK how you figure that Sport.. it seems to me your initial claim was that ROME Installed the Sadducees was well defeated by the fact that Rome did not have any influence or power over this region till some 100 years AFTER the Sadducees established themself in the position of temple leadership...