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If you need to ask what my point is, this is a futile endeavour.

Jesus Christ nor the apostles ever used the misplacing the burden of proof fallacy. Quite the opposite. Never were any asked to believe Christ's claims because they couldn't be "proven false". He proved Himself over and over again.

But ... after you've been given the understanding that you prayed for as well, you now know everything that you didn't know previously about Roger ... because the Holy Spirit clarified and gave you the understanding you were lacking concerning Roger's need(s) ? Simple indeed ! Tell us all...

Why would God enabling us to speak the words we don't know be in a language that we also don't know or comprehend ? Where is the understanding in that ?

For approx. the last 1900 years, (since 70 A.D.), God's promise to bless those who bless Israel was in a "holding pattern" then ? ... until 1948 ? I thought all of God's promises to Israel were fulfilled ? And of course, they were. Until people understand who the Israel of God truly is...

Weren't you just telling Roger to grow up ?:geek: Maybe someone else would like to answer my question(s) ?

And if you do understand what you're praying in tongues, what difference does it make what language you speak ?

If you asked this question in a language that you don't understand, could you rightly say that you're question is fruitful ?

I wanted to ask you .. What do you consider the correct and intended meaning of Paul's words in 1 Corinthians 13:1 .. specifically in regards to tongues ? Was Paul making reference to an angelic language in your view ? I ask because although I've read posts of yours saying what you believe to...

I would agree with you if Paul had said ... "if I speak in the languages of men and the language of angels". But he didn't say that ... and here we are debating Paul's intent to justify each our own beliefs. As for the rest, I am simply stating that "I could" make a case for angels speaking...

If it were evident today that earthly languages were being spoken by those unlearned in them and declaring the wondrous works of God, who could argue that tongues have been ceased ? I know I wouldn't. But myself and many many other believers today have yet to see the evidence of such. But...

I followed it up with this post .. and this is where I will leave it. How many times has this blasphemy card been played by you and others ? Nobody here is speaking against the Holy Spirit. You claim your tongue speaking to be a heavenly language. I don't believe your claim. How many languages...

Ever hear of spellcheck ? ..lol I'll ask you what I asked a couple of others last evening .. and where this convo started. Your thoughts ? "If (though) I speak in the tongues of men or of angels, but do not have love, I am only a resounding gong or a clanging cymbal." We know and would all...

There was a post by me previous to the one you chose to respond to .. and one afterwards. If you're not familiar with the jest of a conversation being carried on, don't reply to a part of it. Thanks.

No worries Dino. It's beyond your level of comprehension.

It doesn't. You're the one who suggested "why not" to angels speaking a different language from one another in heaven. What do you think tongues are but languages themselves ?

This type of reasoning creates a serious problem for tongues advocates today. And here's why. Some of us believe that tongues ceased at the end of the apostolic era. Others, like yourself contend that tongues won't cease until we meet Christ "face to face" .. because you claim that Jesus is...

How many times has this blasphemy card been played by you and others ? Nobody here is speaking against the Holy Spirit. You claim your tongue speaking to be a heavenly language. I don't believe your claim. How many languages are there in heaven ? Remember .. Paul said .. "the tongues...

1 Corinthians 13:1 If (though) I speak in the tongues of men or of angels, but do not have love, I am only a resounding gong or a clanging cymbal. We know and would all agree, I'm certain, that tongues means languages. 1 Corinthians 13:1 uses the term tongues in the plural sense .. as in more...

Unless one knows what is being said in private tongues as well, it too is meaningless, isn't it ? Or is understanding over-rated ? God knows the very thoughts of our hearts ... regardless of what language is used to express them to Him. Agreed ? So what was their purpose except to those...