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  1. sawdust

    Was Mary Sinless?

    Completely disagree. That's right, spirits don't die which means we could never have had one to begin with because it can't die and we would not be dead in our trespasses and sins. We would be born spiritually alive and our spirits would be unaffected by the sin nature. You have it that the...
  2. sawdust

    Was Mary Sinless?

    You just keep repeating the same old thing and fail to prove anything. Spirit gives birth to spirit. Show us in the scriptures where animals are born of God. Show where spirit is born of the earth for that is what animals are made from. Once again, the word that is sometimes translated...
  3. sawdust

    Was Mary Sinless?

    You've repeated your errors. Why would John tell us to confess our sins 1Jn.1:9 if we never sin? Why would Paul command us to walk after the Spirit and not the flesh Gal.5:16 if it was impossible to sin? You make no logical sense.
  4. sawdust

    Was Mary Sinless?

    Just can't stay on topic can you. We were talking about how animals are made. If you have no breath you are dead, be you man or beast. You have no answer when shown animals are made living souls from the earth. So be it. Stay ignorant. As for Is.42:5. You must be born again for what purpose...
  5. sawdust

    Was Mary Sinless?

    Sure, I'm just an ignorant sinner. Can't argue the message, just attack the messenger instead. Have a nice Day. :)
  6. sawdust

    Was Mary Sinless?

    So you are without sin and never sin. Must be nice to be so perfected even though you remain in this corruptible and mortal body and your mind remains seeing in a mirror dimly without the full knowledge of God. Not sure what you think caused the death of your spirit, soul and body if not sin...
  7. sawdust

    Was Mary Sinless?

    You implied Paul's writings were not scripture. You can twist and turn all you like but that was the implication. Are you now saying Paul's writings are scripture just as David's "journaling" is scripture?
  8. sawdust

    Was Mary Sinless?

    Then by your definition should we throw out the New Testament? Seeing as it was only Paul "writing" in 2Tim, and we cannot be sure it is actually God inspired then he claiming the OT was God inspired may or may not be correct as it is only Paul's opinion. Rather circular if you ask me. :confused:
  9. sawdust

    Was Mary Sinless?

    You are indwelt by the Holy Spirit. Are you claiming you are without sin? 1 Corinthians 6:19 Or do you not know that your body is the temple of the Holy Spirit who is in you, whom you have from God, and you are not your own?
  10. sawdust

    Was Mary Sinless?

    And this has what to do with anything I said? The Lord God said from the outset what the consequences of sin would be so no, there was only ever going to be one payment for sin. It's not a question of "needing" a price, it's a matter of creation working as intended and what happens when it...
  11. sawdust

    Was Mary Sinless?

    You think Paul's words are not scripture? Peter considered Paul's letters equivalent with scripture. 2 Peter 3:16 as also in all his epistles, speaking in them of these things, in which are some things hard to understand, which untaught and unstable people twist to their own destruction, as...
  12. sawdust

    Was Mary Sinless?

    Why? You think there can't be something missing from the DNA that affects cell replication and repair or some other mechanism that would keep the body free from death? Scripture says there is "another law" at work in our bodies, a law God did not put there, a law we inherited from Adam down the...
  13. sawdust

    Was Mary Sinless?

    Because Adam was held responsible for the original sin, whereas Eve was deceived. 1 Timothy 2:14 And Adam was not the one deceived; it was the woman who was deceived and became a sinner.
  14. sawdust

    Was Mary Sinless?

    Actually it does exclude Jesus because it says sin entered through one man, hence the virgin birth. Only Mary was used in the preparation of Christ's body.
  15. sawdust

    Was Mary Sinless?

    She wasn't dead in her sins, I said as much. She was born again, spiritually alive, just like every believer is but that does not mean she was without a sin nature or had not committed any personal sins. To be "dead in ones sin" means to be spiritually dead, it does not mean to be without sin...
  16. sawdust

    Was Mary Sinless?

    Yes because all have sinned. No-one who is born of God is dead in their sin anymore, that is a spiritual issue not a physical one. Being filled with grace doesn't remove the sin nature, we need a resurrected body for that to happen. The sin nature, the corruption in our flesh Rom.7:23 , is...
  17. sawdust

    Was Mary Sinless?

    All I can say is you must be blind as it says it in black and white in the very text. To have soul is to have breath. They became living souls from the earth. Their body and soul was manufactured from the elements of the ground. Here is the link as it would appear you didn't bother to look at...
  18. sawdust

    Was Mary Sinless?

    No it is not. Read the Hebrew text. They became living souls from the earth.
  19. sawdust

    Was Mary Sinless?

    Excuse me? I've never said the order is soul first. That's just your wrong conclusions. We are born fallen creatures which is why we cannot be born of God and be connected to Him in this fallen state. We need a Saviour first and as our Saviour was slain from the foundation of the earth, all...