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You quoted me then didn't respond? Are you just trolling now or will finally give an answer to my question? David was assured of his salvation because Christ is the lamb that was slain from the foundation of the world. He was saved just as all believers in the OT were saved. They could see the...

John 3:18 “He who believes in Him is not condemned; but he who does not believe is condemned already, because he has not believed in the name of the only begotten Son of God.

He still can't get his head around all these people who would not have been able to see the kingdom of God Jn.3:3 yet somehow they can miraculously write about it and know the security of their salvation. I wonder who he thinks Yahweh is whom they believed? When will he wake up that there is no...

No you haven't. I keep asking you how this "deadened" spirit can hear. You have not answered. You simply keep repeating God zaps some power in and viola, but that has us born again before we hear the Gospel. Yes, it sates repeatedly man and animals have breath. What is irrational is that you...

You answer my question I have asked four times now without answer and I will answer yours. That's your rules not mine and had you been listening, you would already know my answer as I have given it on at least two occasions I can recall (possibly more) but I suspect you have no idea what I would...

Again the command was "in the day you eat", not in the instant you eat. Eve died in the day she ate so the command was as much for her as it was for Adam. The fact the command came through Adam and not directly from God, does not negate her responsibility anymore than you knowing right from...

Then why did she die? The wages of what is death? I think you are grasping at straws to try and prove your point.

When Eve became a sinner has nothing to do with when sin entered the world. Eve is not the world. Sin is passed down through Adam. The sin nature is in the flesh Rom.7:23 and is genetically formed. It is through procreation that sin entered all humanity. You are trying to make the verse apply to...

So? What's your point? It doesn't seem to have anything to do with what was originally said which, was "when did Eve become a sinner?".

God never said they would die the instant they ate. Christ did not die the instant our sins were placed on Him but He did die on the same day which, was not the general rule for crucifixions. Genesis 2:17 but of the tree of the knowledge of good and evil you shall not eat, for in the day that...

Yes, but as pointed out, the word means dead as in "dead in our sin". You tried using a derivative that had no place in the story. You changed the meaning to suit your narrative and keep on completely ignoring the verses where the two distinct words are used and how they are applied differently...

I don't believe @EmethAlethia is implying Eve wasn't a sinner but that she sinned when she gave Adam the fruit rather than the view she sinned when she ate the fruit.

And perhaps someone will explain it to you that the difference is the scripture writers must be believed while the other can be lawfully rejected. They were not arguing Moses and David could be believed in spite of being murderers too. If they had, you might have a valid argument for hypocrisy...

Yes, because your point had no validity for the argument as to why Calvin should be believed. Behaviour of the three men has nothing to do with it. You cannot establish an hypocrisy unless you first establish an equal footing between the parties. You are trying to compare apples with oranges.

You claim you never said anything about what Calvin said is truth while in the very next sentence claim God can use him to proclaim truth. This is so typical of you. Your words are filled with implied meaning yet because you don't say a specific phrase, you claim "I never said". I brought you...

Here we go again, changing the subject. Not interested in your fake arguments. Fact remains, Calvins' word is not by what we measure truth, scripture is. David and Moses wrote scripture, Calvin did not. Sometimes I think the Reformed elevate Calvin almost as much as the Roman Catholics elevate...

What words of Calvin made scripture? Moses and David's words God saw fit to include as scripture. That makes a huge difference.

What is also interesting is we are not told what she said. Gen.3:17 17 And unto Adam he said, Because thou hast hearkened unto the voice of thy wife, and hast eaten of the tree, of which I commanded thee, saying, Thou shalt not eat of it: cursed is the ground for thy sake; in sorrow shalt thou...

And she acted the moment she believed. Thinking is something we do.

1 Timothy 2:14 And Adam was not the one deceived; it was the woman who was deceived and became a sinner. Sounds to me like she became a sinner the moment she believed the serpent's lie. Just because she was not held responsible for sin entering the world, does not negate her suffering the...