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I didn't say scripture contradicts itself, but I see you making up categories that I don't see in scripture.

Don't lie about me. I told you that wasn't my point. My point is that there are hundreds of millions of Pentecostals, and if you say their god is their belly... you are condemning a lot of people with a broad brush. I did not say that large numbers makes a group right. I've probably known...

How does this response make any sense at all as a defense of your position? Surely you aren't trying to imply that there was something wrong with our Lord's control of His appetite.

No basis for accusing people of having their belly as they're God. Again I asked you where you make the connection for saying the pentecostals of which there are a millions have their belly as they're God. If a verse says their God is their belly there's nothing in the passage that points to...

That's your assertion, but Paul asks, "Not all speak in tongues do they?" 'Them'... they did this. Not every single individual has to speak or perform both actions to fit the wording of this passage. Just as when the disciples asked 'why this waste', that doesn't mean all of them had to say...

@Genez It's an issue of fear of God and holiness: broadly accusing others of heinous sin with no basis for doing so. I exhort you to repent of your sin.

That seems inconsistent with your own theology.

You shouldn't confess such things. The Holy Spirit would not lead you to slander others and invent your own idiosyncratic false teachings. Your post is another example of the problem with judging I pointed out in your other posts.

The Bible does not actually teach that tongues is a sign to other believers that someone is filled with the Holy Spirit. Now, it might have helped Peter and those of the circumcision to realize what God was doing. But Paul says that tongues is a sign to them that believe not. What Peter...

@Genez I don't care if your DTS grad favorite preacher likes or doesn't like DTS. I'm not pretrib or cessationist... and I believe in Biblical plural eldership... other than that, I don't really have a beef with DTS or know much more about it to care. I do wonder why live exegesis is...

You are the one despising correction. Why don't you email the preacher you follow who is a DTS grad, and without prompting him with the details of this conversation, ask him if what the verse about their god boing their belly refers to. See if you think he's stupid, too. And you can think...

If you can't come up with a decent response or rebuttal, just call the other person stupid.... it's the old ad hominem strategy. I didn't post that to impress anyone. It hadn't crossed my mind. But your MO seems to be to accuse others. If you will accuse millions of Christians of serving...

Does anyone use Zoom? I used it a few weeks ago, and it wasn't me to accept version 6.6.6. If elevator companies skip 13 or numbers with the digit 4 in it (in Asia), then why can't Zoom skip version 666. That could be the result of a computer program adding a number... but still. The...

Wait a minute here. Thomas was the one who wouldn't believe God did a miracle unless he saw it with his own eyes. Wasn't that a theme of your posts earlier in the thread? There is also a big difference between only believing God if you see Him do a miracle and believing God does miracles...

You are conflating 'bowels' with 'stomach' which are two Greek words. The Philippians 3 verse is about the stomach. Verses that refer to σπλάγχνα translated literally “bowels” Verses that use σπλάγχνον, which can literally be translated as 'bowels', some non-literal examples. 2 Corinthians...

It's seat of emotions.... not emotions. But the belly is also where food goes. It is also associated with appetites. It can also refer to the womb. Translators sometimes translate it 'appetite.' And Paul uses it here: I Corinthians 6 13 Foods for the stomach and the stomach for foods...

I'm trying to keep poster's arguments straight. Wasn't your argument basically that because of the Greek middle form of the word translated 'cease' there, tongues would gradually cease permanently.... and then I show you from the Gospels where a middle form of the verb is used in one gospel...

Talking about the scripture you misapply. People can infer draw other conclusions from false teachings other than those drawn by the one who teaches it. If you believe there are genuine Christians among the Pentecostals, why would the Spirit of God not work through them in genuine spiritual...

I suspect this is a one-man doctrine that no one else besides Genez holds to. It would be sad to add this other requirement for salvation to the Gospel, this other little one-verse 'gotcha' that damns people to Hell... for some vague emotional requirements.... some vague idea that being too...

Why don't you address the points I made on this topic. Paul Wright's in U Corinthians 1:7 'so that you come behind and no spiritual gift waiting for the coming of our Lord Jesus Christ.' Press corinthians 13 speaks of tongues prophecy in the coming of the perfect. Then follow the flow of...