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    Is cessation an observation or theology?

    Well, you sure did argue against that straw man argument. I do not think large numbers saves. I notice you did not address the part about millions believing Christ died and rose from the dead. My point is that there are millions of Pentecostals and you are making such broad sweeping...
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    Is cessation an observation or theology?

    How do you think every Pentecostal on earth makes emotions his or her god?
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    Is cessation an observation or theology?

    You appear to be trolling with that first comment. I didn't make the claims about how much others have studied. You mentioned you went to Bible college. I hope you don't fill a pulpit with your attitude and your stretchy use of scripture. There are hundreds of millions of Pentecostals...
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    Is cessation an observation or theology?

    Oh so you think you you know how much other posters on the form have studied? Do you claim a supernatural revelation about this?
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    Is cessation an observation or theology?

    I see what happened now. Some of my comments sometimes assume people have studied out issues they are commenting on. Timothy had a gift in him through prophecy with the laying on of hands of the elders. Timothy was told to do the work of an evangelist and co-authored a letter in which the...
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    Is cessation an observation or theology?

    Well, you could explain what you mean. I didn't see a coherent argument doctrinally in what you were trying to say, and so I will admit to filling in the gaps with more generic cessationist arguments I've encountered. I even quoted the bit about evangelists in response to your post, "I can...
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    Is cessation an observation or theology?

    I don't know that you have the ability to discern between the two or care to.
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    Is cessation an observation or theology?

    In what areas do you think Pentecostals are overly emotional? Is calling Pentecostals emotional your god? Is posting poor interpretations your god? What is your criteria for saying someone has a 'god' and do you apply such criteria so loosely to yourself?
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    Is cessation an observation or theology?

    He seemed to be missing a point of my previous post, and your post would seem to indicate that you missed it also.
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    Is cessation an observation or theology?

    Do you have any evidence that any of these verbs or their aspect or whatever grammatical category indicates they end 'abruptly'? You seem to be reaching here. I also notice cessationists have inconsistent beliefs about Greek grammar amongs themselves. Those are three issues Paul addresses in...
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    Is cessation an observation or theology?

    In the Old Testament, people would inquire of the Lord through prophets. Saul was ashamed to go to Samuel without a gift. His servant had a coin. God's people were allowed to go to a prophet of the LORD, but they were forbidden from going to soothsayers.
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    Is cessation an observation or theology?

    I see some real nasty prejudiced drivel and twisting of scripture in your posts here. Being emotional and making one's belly one's god aren't the same thing. Emotions directed toward God in praise or prayer, etc. is not condemned in scripture. Paul is describing himself as expressive of...
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    Is cessation an observation or theology?

    How do you get any kind of argument out of the text for what you are saying here? An aorist form of the same word translated 'cease' shows up in one gospel account of the winds and waves ceasing, but in another gospel, it doesn't use the middle. You are trying to make doctrinal points out of...
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    Is cessation an observation or theology?

    Well... 'has to do with being emotional' aligns with what you said. Why would you go with the idea that their god is their emotions, as opposed to their god is carnal appetites? Isn't the latter more in line with Pauline theology given the passage in I Corinthians 6? There are lustful...
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    Is cessation an observation or theology?

    I'm the one whose standing on what scripture teaches. You have rather bizarre misinterpretations of scripture. Are you emotionally addicted to sterile cessationist ideology? As far as witches go, demons might tell witches things. The Bible talks about divination, soothsaying, etc. and...
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    Is cessation an observation or theology?

    I'm shaking my head here. Bad theology produces bad exegesis. Did you bother reading the first part of the verse? or many walk, of whom I have told you often, and now tell you even weeping, that they are the enemies of the cross of Christ: whose end is destruction, whose god is their belly...
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    Is cessation an observation or theology?

    I think you need to look up 'ongoing' in the dictionary. We aren't talking about 'widespread' or 'common' events. If individuals have experienced supernatural manifestations of the Holy Spirit and testify to experiencing them, their testimonies are evidence that such manifestations are...
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    Is cessation an observation or theology?

    Why don't you show me in a Greek grammar book or by some examples from usage of words in other passages of scripture or ancient Greek texts that if two different verbs are used that they must refer to different time periods. This sounds like a specious argument to me. Are you arguing that...
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    Is cessation an observation or theology?

    So are you opposed to the idea of God speaking through revelatory dreams?
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    Is cessation an observation or theology?

    There are people have seen healings, witnessed supernatural prophecies (e.g. people prophesying things they could not naturally know.) If you haven't seen it, it means you haven't seen it. It doesn't mean it hasn't happened. You could call people liars for telling you what you have seen...