Search results

  1. P

    Is cessation an observation or theology?

    I will address the 'Greek myth' you have proposed, along with the one proposed by @Genez We can find good evidence AGAINST this hypothesis by looking at how the Greek middle is used for the same Greek lexical item in other passages, to address the assertion that the middle means they gradually...
  2. P

    Is cessation an observation or theology?

    Well, you are one of the skeptics, right? So why do you keep talking about the subject?
  3. P

    Is cessation an observation or theology?

    Both are present.
  4. P

    Is cessation an observation or theology?

    Did the psychologist hear it from a cousin who heard it from his best friend who read it in a newspaper, Can you cite a peer-reviewed journal article?
  5. P

    Is cessation an observation or theology?

    Absolutely false. We accept the testimony of the New Testament without seeing. Insisting that you'll be able to see every miracle before you believed it happened isn't reasonable for a Christian. You obviously haven't been reading my posts.
  6. P

    Is cessation an observation or theology?

    You read claims that Jesus, Peter, and Paul healed people. You read them in the Bible. Have you seen any of these healings with your own eyes?
  7. P

    Is cessation an observation or theology?

    What is your source? I through your claim into Copilot and it says: There is no strong evidence that Pentecostal church attendance causes higher mental‑illness rates compared to other churches. Large epidemiological studies show that religious attendance in general is associated with lower...
  8. P

    Is cessation an observation or theology?

    You do not have to see airplanes fly for claims of flight to be true. If you want to find out, go research for yourself. If you are in a remote Area where airplanes do not fly you might want to believe 2 or 3 witnesses. I would guess that actual miracles are more rare than seeing airplane...
  9. P

    Is cessation an observation or theology?

    There was fornication among those in the church in Corinth, mentioned in both epistles we have. Yet there were genuine spiritual gifts also, mentioned in I Corinthians. You could find error in a Pentecostal denomination, but that does not mean that the Spirit does not do what the scriptures...
  10. P

    Is cessation an observation or theology?

    If you cannot put together a convincing argument maybe you should re-examine your own beliefs.
  11. P

    Is cessation an observation or theology?

    Are you posting 'self-talk? Who is this addressed to?
  12. P

    Is cessation an observation or theology?

    That's not the experience of the church, and it is rather ignorant to say that. Do a bit of reading. There have been numerous accounts of miracles throughout church history. You can also read about prophecy during the Ante-Nicene period. Ireneaus wrote of prophecy, miracles, tongues...
  13. P

    Is cessation an observation or theology?

    Where does the Bible teach this? If you try to get this from first corinthians 13 how do you get around the implication that you are making yourself out as superior to the apostle Paul? The book of Romans includes teaching among the charismata along with exhortation and prophecy. Would you...
  14. P

    Is cessation an observation or theology?

    If you accept them as facts, then there is nothing to disagree about. There isn't that much information there. There is a lot of white space.
  15. P

    Is cessation an observation or theology?

    It seemed pretty straightforward and was easier than writing it up myself. But there is a lot there that could be responded to. I saw a post from a theological on John MacArthur's faulty assumptions about the middle and assuming sequence a while back, but it was in a Facebook discussion...
  16. P

    Is cessation an observation or theology?

    Something else to point out is that where it says 'whether there be tongues, they will cease'... the idea that he may be saying whenever anyone speaks in tongues, it stops, as opposed to talking about the ending of the gift of tongues. We we are children, we experience childlike speech...
  17. P

    Is cessation an observation or theology?

    Your argument does not follow logically. Of course, Paul said 'So that ye come behind in no spiritual gift, waiting for the coming of our Lord Jesus Christ.' before writing the rest of the epistle which goes into depth on speaking in tongues, interpretation and prophesying. Here is a little...
  18. P

    Is cessation an observation or theology?

    I suppose demons can speak other languages. They spoke something for people to understand them in the first century (Greek, Aramaic, etc.) That is not my point. Paul does not warn Christians to watch out for that speaking in tongues because it might come from a demon. That just isn't...
  19. P

    Is cessation an observation or theology?

    Some today would interpret the verses consistently with the verses that follow and the rest of the book. No one is saying that they are to 'play with'. Scripture does not say they have ceased. Address my post please on 'so that ye come behind in no spiritual gift, waiting for the coming of...
  20. P

    Is cessation an observation or theology?

    So would you accuse the apostles because of reports of such activity in the occult-- reports not found in scripture. I suppose demons know multiple languages. It does not make sense to view the coming of the perfect as a past event. Linguists would have difficulty with: 1. Tongues of...