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    Is cessation an observation or theology?

    Your basing theology on a lack of experience. I have seen plenty of evidence for spiritual gifts. Some of the prophecies also are about things the speaker would not naturally know. Miracles seem relative rare, except maybe casting out demons. But they might not have been that common in...
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    Pre Trib or Post trib rapture?

    @Psalm 1 This is the kind of nonsense I'm talking about. The scriptures are great. But I could quote 'Judas went and hanged himself'---and say 'see it says not the eat chocolate on the weekend. It doesn't prove my case. Show me chapter and verse that a reference to the 'flood' means the...
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    Holy Spirit/Blasphemy

    Since I'm sharing your quote with the link you can click on the whole Bible, too, so you won't accuse me of omitting anything in the Bible in the thread.
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    Pre Trib or Post trib rapture?

    You aren't making much sense here. Up is the opposite of down. Yes is the opposite of now, but why would your theory of a pretrib rapture be the opposite of the second coming? Nothing about what I posted is evidence for your assertions above. I can't read your mind. I don't know what point...
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    Pre Trib or Post trib rapture?

    I'm trying. Also, you don't have to go loggerheads over everything. If you spend time typing a message, I would imagine you'd want people to be able to focus on what you are saying. I told you a little about how quotes work. I'm not sure what happened to that last quote, but it made sense...
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    Pre Trib or Post trib rapture?

    But not every reference to a harvest is a reference to a resurrection, which is the key issue here. The harvest of grapes involved blood up to the horse's bridle. Do you think that refers to the resurrection? I do believe that Christ is the firstfruits of the resurrection....as Paul says...
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    Holy Spirit/Blasphemy

    I didn't comment on the premise. That was part of an Argument that you need to not lie. You should also not contradict the Bible when it's presented to you and be humble enough to just accept what it says. This is not a contest or a boxing match. I haven't quoted the whole Bible here. But...
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    Holy Spirit/Blasphemy

    If you flat out lie about people, and you think people who sin are servants of the devil, and don't operate in the gifts, what do you say about yourself? I did not say that God anoints evil people with the Holy Spirit. I quoted scripture that showed that 'the Spirit of God came upon him' in...
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    Holy Spirit/Blasphemy

    Nasty and religious don't mix well together. You should be better behaved. I quoted a couple of scriptures to you, and the idea of God being evil came out of your mind. So don't blame that on me. If I tell you not to lie, that doesn't mean I'm advocating for whoever you are talking about...
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    Holy Spirit/Blasphemy

    I quoted two scriptures... that idea came into your mind, and you attributed it to me. Is that what you think those scriptures are saying? My point was that the evil spirit troubled Saul after the Spirit of the LORD left him, but at a later time the Holy Spirit came upon him that he might...
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    Holy Spirit/Blasphemy

    Jesus breathed on them and said 'Receive ye the Holy Spirit' and told about the enduement with power not many days hence AFTER the resurrection. I think most of us would think that Judas had already hanged himself. But the Spirit of God did come upon Balaam when he prophesied. Also, look at...
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    Holy Spirit/Blasphemy

    The one who operates in gifts like tongues, interpretation, prophecy, gifts of healing, or the working of miracles should be careful not to tell himself, "I am operating in the power of God. Therefore, my life must be righteous." and justify areas of sin and compromise in his own life...
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    Holy Spirit/Blasphemy

    We can't really know that about the timeline of Judas exactly. Since there is a reference to the feeding of the 5000, John 6 may align with Matthew 14. Jesus said He had chosen 'you twelve' and that one of them was a devil. He sent the 12 out in Matthew 10. But he said later of Judas in John...
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    Specific Questions for Pretribbers

    I appreciate your responding to the actual questions in the OP. Protos _can_ mean that, like foremost, or first in an ordinal or temporal sense. But let's look at the context. Revelation 20 5 But the rest of the dead did not live again until the thousand years were finished. This is the...
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    Pre Trib or Post trib rapture?

    What are you talking about? How have I, or anyone in the thread, changed Matthew 24? I have asked you over and over again to give some justification that a reference to the flood means that Jesus is coming back twice, or why a reference to the flood would mean that the coming of the Son of...
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    Pre Trib or Post trib rapture?

    The bible, mentally discerned and edited, as you are demonstrating, produces doctrines of conjecture and bible modifications. Look what you and your camp do to this very issue of the impossible "one coming". ...and to Matthew "before the flood" setting, Lot's "before the trib removal" setting...
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    Will the Quote Feature Ever be Restored

    Thanks for the tip. It is quite time consuming compared to the old method. I cut and paste messages into a notepad on my computer, then cut and paste over the whole message, but it doesn't enable tracking back to what message I am replying to, I assume.
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    Specific Questions for Pretribbers

    The word ekklesia is used to refer to local/city level assemblies not the 'church militant' or 'the church through time and space in the Book of Revelation. But II Thessalonians 1 uses the word 'church' for the revelation of the Lord from heaven, clarifying that the Lord will execute judgment...
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    Holy Spirit/Blasphemy

    @JayWalker I stand corrected. I relied on fuzzy member and JayWalker's comment. The Pharisees are mentioned earlier in the chapter. This passage is about 'the Jews.' My message is new, but not new enough since five minutes has passed, apparently and I cannot correct it. So you all have my...