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    Revelation 19- A major Key to understanding Revelations

    I'm not making a category mistake. Paul told you that the Jews are temporarily blinded until the FULLNESS OF THE GENTILES comes in. That won't happen until the Word has been preached throughout the entire rest of the world. Once it has, Jesus will reveal Himself to the Jews and graft a...
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    Revelation 19- A major Key to understanding Revelations

    I call B.S. on your worthless response. Just because believers consider the unity already real, doesn't mean unbelieving Jews consider the wall broken down and until they become a believer. If I didn't know better, I'd think you're just trying to deflect from giving a meaningful response to...
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    Revelation 19- A major Key to understanding Revelations

    Then you need to point me back to what you're talking about. In the meanwhile, I don't think you took what I said in context with the rest of what I was saying. While existing believers are considered ALL IN CHRIST, not everyone becomes believers at the same time. Until they become a...
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    Revelation 19- A major Key to understanding Revelations

    You need to communicate better. When you make comments like these, you need to EXPLAIN how that is.
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    Revelation 19- A major Key to understanding Revelations

    In your view, how does Isaiah 49 fit into the total scheme of things and the timeline?
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    Revelation 19- A major Key to understanding Revelations

    Like I said before, you're looking at Matthew 24 backwards. Those verses tell you that it was the evil people who were "swept away" with the flood and removed from the earth. You were confused based on the language on who was actually being swept away. You thought it was Noah as the righteous...
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    Revelation 19- A major Key to understanding Revelations

    So, as a general note to this thread, how do we see "prophetic telescoping" happening in Revelation 19? I don't think we can just assume that the "remnant" is slain by the word of His mouth at the same time as the earthly kings and captains because of verse 15. Revelation 19:15 - And out of...
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    Revelation 19- A major Key to understanding Revelations

    This reminds me of all of the previous discussions that we all had about who the ones are that are plucked up and which ones remain? In every case, the evil ones were the ones removed physically from the earth, for a new righteous style of life to start over again here. The same holds true in...
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    Revelation 19- A major Key to understanding Revelations

    When Jesus returns to earth as "King of Kings AND Lord of Lords" for battle in order to become King over all the earth like Zechariah 14:9 shows us, I can't help but believe that He stays on the earth because of how everything is written in Zechariah 13, specifically verses 8 and 9. If Jesus...
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    Revelation 19- A major Key to understanding Revelations

    Correct. A remnant of the ethnic Jews will become one in Christ with us once they do that. The question that still remains in this discussion is whether or not it happens on the current earth in Jesus' resurrected presence, and whether they are allowed to live in peace for 1,000 years...
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    Revelation 19- A major Key to understanding Revelations

    As for your statement: "And your finale — “Gentiles will be subservient to the Jew and glad for the opportunity” — is exactly why your system collapses: it requires a future hierarchy the NT obliterates when it says “there is neither Jew nor Greek… you are all one in Christ Jesus”. If this is...
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    Revelation 19- A major Key to understanding Revelations

    What do you mean when you say, "The only place at that time that you will find a Jew will be in the earth, not on it."? What do you believe happens during this resting period? In Ezekiel 39 it shows that the House of Israel will spend 7 months burying all of the dead bodies and 7 years...
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    Revelation 19- A major Key to understanding Revelations

    You said: "Revelation 7:15 doesn’t give you a mortal, sin‑and‑die millennium with a functioning earthly temple; it gives you resurrected saints in heaven, serving God “day and night” in His heavenly temple, the same one Revelation repeatedly locates in heaven, not on earth (Rev 11:19; 14:17...
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    Revelation 19- A major Key to understanding Revelations

    You said: "Your entire argument hinges on treating Jesus’ “not one jot or tittle will pass until heaven and earth pass away” as if He meant “the Mosaic covenant must continue literally until the physical universe dissolves,” when He Himself explains the opposite two verses later:" Hello...
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    Revelation 19- A major Key to understanding Revelations

    You said: "The irony? You accuse me of “empty words” unless I can diagram every symbol, while your system adds an entire era—mortals, sin, death, temple, judges—that the NT never once describes, then calls that “taking all prophecy.” Revelation 11 mentions a temple and Revelation 7:15 says...
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    Revelation 19- A major Key to understanding Revelations

    You said: "You’re trying to rescue your millennium by treating “the covenant was historically present until 70 AD” as if that means “the covenant was spiritually operative until 70 AD,” but Hebrews doesn’t care when the priests stopped sacrificing — it says the covenant was terminated at the...
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    Revelation 19- A major Key to understanding Revelations

    And I refuse to accept that the New Testament deletes and erases a HUGE amount of Old Testament scripture. The level of detail given in Isaiah, Ezekiel and the Psalms shouldn't be written off as "poetry". It's prophecy. And Jesus said He would FULFILL IT ALL in Luke 24:44. There would be no...
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    Revelation 19- A major Key to understanding Revelations

    You said: "The apostles weren’t practicing syncretism; they were navigating the last breaths of a covenant God was about to terminate, not modeling a future return of Levitical worship." According to you previously, the covenant was terminated immediately upon Christ's fulfillment on the cross...
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    Revelation 19- A major Key to understanding Revelations

    In order for you to say that a peaceful era never happens on earth, you have to totally ignore HUGE amounts of scripture. People won't be going back to living hundreds of years old in Isaiah 65 just to die in Heaven.
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    Revelation 19- A major Key to understanding Revelations

    I'll ask you the same thing that I did OMC, how do you see that happening and unfolding? I really want to be able to follow your train of thought. How does Ezekiel and Isaiah become fulfilled to fit into this equation? How do we come to a period of peace where people will live to be hundreds...