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By the way paradise is the garden tomb Jesus and the thieves ended up in that day - Jesus never went to the heavenly abode that day with the thief whom he said would be with him in paradise that day

That's a good idea - quote your own post and say - that's 100 per cent correct lol

In 281 BC, Seleucus defeated Lysimachus at the Battle of Corupedium, adding Asia Minor to his empire. Look it up.

The Grecian empire had been divided among Alexander's four leading generals, Cassander, Lysimachus, Ptolemy, and Seleucus. Cassander took Macedonia and Greece in the west; Lysimachus took Thrace and the parts of Asia on the Hellespont and the Bosphorus to the north; Ptolemy took Egypt, Lydia...

It was a general statement about arrogance - but if you want to own it go ahead. By the way telling me I need the brain of a caveman to understand is not a personal attack is it ? :P

Who said I turned to Preterism ? I was asking a Preterist their take on things. Asking what others believe is not the same as turning to that belief You better find a caveman to explain things to you then because so far you are understanding nothing :) What the sun moon and stars represent is...

Yeah stop listening to silly you tube videos and read silly CC posts instead :) And no, it is nothing to do with the air conditioning - AC stands for anti-Christ :) Seriously though - the more arrogant they are the more wrong they are I find

He fulfilled all the offerings and sacrifices though - or do you not believe that ?

Daniel 12:11 And from the time that the daily sacrifice shall be taken away, and the abomination that maketh desolate set up, there shall be a thousand two hundred and ninety days. We can be certain that the Crucifixion of Christ is the daily sacrifice being taken away just by reading Hebrews...

KJV and Erasmus Majority text and Hebrew Masoretic Text I suppose it could be read - from the daily sacrifice taken away which obviously was Christs crucifixion to the abomination that maketh desolate is 1290 days

It does not say the AOD would be set up after in my Bible Daniel 12:11 And from the time that the daily sacrifice shall be taken away, and the abomination that maketh desolate set up, there shall be a thousand two hundred and ninety days.

I think we are close view wise on much of the scriptures. To me the futurist has to read things into the text then juggle things about to try and make all the others scriptures fit their view and it gets very contradictory IMO

Thanks for the reply :) Was you a futurist at first like I was? That's what was drummed into me at my first church. Before I started attending that church I had a simple understanding of the bible, then when I got all that indoctrination everything because so complex lol

I was watching the thread - Revelation 19- A major Key to understanding Revelations - and you should see the contortions of scripture they go through to try and prove one Rapture theory over another. Someone said what about Matthew 24:31 saying they will be gathered. Mat 24:31 And he shall...

What Jesus is saying here is that following the destruction of Jerusalem, that by his angels or ministers, will gather together for himself an ecclesia - a called out body of believers from all nations under heaven.

Where does this 7 year tribulation appear in the bible ? The bible says much about tribulation - much tribulation great tribulation etc but nowhere does it say "The Great Tribulation" with the definite article "THE" . . . Sorry correction The NIV adds "THE" to it, but it is not found in the...

So its not going to be a Gold statue of Trump ?

The first mention of a "tithe" is in Genesis 14, which is also recorded in Hebrews chapter 7. "Tithers" will usually claim that "Abraham and Jacob paid tithes before the Law of Moses, so believers should still pay tithes, even though the law of Moses has been done away with". Abram (later...

Is that one of those Charles Larkin charts ?

You are talking about chickens while I am talking about hamsters - you are on a different page to the topic, I did not mention freely giving or charity.