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    The Church, and Israel and the Last Days.

    The reason the prophetic books are so hard to decipher is because all of them speak of near future and events and far future events all in the same chapter. It's called "prophetic telescoping". Many prophecies have a double fulfillment where history will repeat itself, but on a much larger...
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    The Church, and Israel and the Last Days.

    I'm not sure you specifically answered Psalm1's question. Are you just generally saying that Israel should be considered under "Great Tribulation" until Jesus returns to earth, including the seal and bowl judgements in the future? Do you acknowledge that seal and bowl judgements are future events?
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    Sharing

    Wow, there's no much to unpack in those first 4 verses of 2 Samuel 23:1-4! It's never ending! 1 Now these be the last words of David. David the son of Jesse said, and the man who was raised up on high, the anointed of the God of Jacob, and the sweet psalmist of Israel, said, 2 The Spirit of...
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    Led by the Spirit

    I can totally relate to the GPS experience. I lived a pretty carefree life throughout my 20's and took a detour from the GPS. Even though I knew God/Jesus and prayed to Him regularly, I couldn't understand why my prayers weren't being answered. During this same time, I noticed that a...
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    End of Days

    Since a lot of those verses don't prove that the living who enter the Millennial Kingdom are those of flesh, I asked my Brave Search Assistant to make a clarification and here is what it gave me: You're right to press this. Several of those verses are ambiguous about body type — they could...
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    End of Days

    Good morning, OMC! Looking forward to picking up where we left off, even if we can't come to any definite conclusions! 😁 I've been thinking a lot about the differences between Revelation 19 and Revelation 20. Revelation 19 tells us that only the Beast and the False Prophet are thrown into...
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    How do we testify to this word of the Lord?

    How can I ask you questions before you give me an answer? I think you're struggling to give me an answer quite frankly, which is a good sign, because it might mean that the scriptures that I shared with you earlier may slowly be sinking in for you to think over before you respond.
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    The Church, and Israel and the Last Days.

    The irony I was seeing was Psalm1 using post-trib related scripture to argue for a pre-trib rapture.
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    The Church, and Israel and the Last Days.

    You are absolutely hilarious! Look at verse 39 again. It absolutely used the word, "took". As in "and took them all away".
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    The Church, and Israel and the Last Days.

    So, while we're sealed and shielded from the seal and bowl judgements, we just have to worry about being martyred by way of the Beast? Honestly, at this point, a nuke option sounds good. The quicker the better. LOL!
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    The Church, and Israel and the Last Days.

    Here's something I find ironic about our conversation with Psalm1. When I chose to use A.I. to tell me based on all of the scriptures combined, which was the most likely to happen, it tells me that the Matthew 24 argument is used to support a POST tribulation rapture! LOL! Here are the...
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    The Church, and Israel and the Last Days.

    I think part of the problem is that when I first watched the Left Behind series 47 years ago, it was showing this exact scene of people being plucked up for the sake of salvation and a pre-trib rapture. I've spent many hours and days searching the scriptures for whether there's going to be a...
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    The Church, and Israel and the Last Days.

    Unfortunately, that's not how those verses in Matthew 24 read. Matthew 24:38-39 38 For as in the days that were before the flood they were eating and drinking, marrying and giving in marriage, until the day that Noe entered into the ark, 39 And knew not until the flood came, and took them...
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    The Church, and Israel and the Last Days.

    Where's the facepalm emoji when you need it? Verse Genesis 19:23 tells you that Lot went to Zoar to be spared. Zoar is on the earth. Lot was not REMOVED FROM THE EARTH the people who died in Sodom and Gomorrah were removed from the earth when they died in the fire. This whole conversation is...
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    The Church, and Israel and the Last Days.

    Ha! That would require you to go back and read that long post I made with scripture that you refused to read. Are you sure you want to do that?
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    How do we testify to this word of the Lord?

    I think we can already guess that he'll point to the verses where Jesus said that His father was greater than he was. The only thing Godsgood hasn't considered is the reasoning for why Jesus would say that. Jesus came as God incarnate in human flesh and all human flesh is considered lesser...
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    The Church, and Israel and the Last Days.

    No, what we was pointing out to you is that NEITHER Lot or Noah were the ones removed from the earth, the rest of the people in Sodom & Gomorrah were the ones being removed from the earth. A rapture is an event where people are removed from the earth. Two separate events. Two different ways...
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    How do we testify to this word of the Lord?

    So, how do you reconcile all of that with what Jesus said in John 14:7-9, John 8:19 and all of the verses I've already given you in my previous post below? You don't believe in the Trinity of God? While there is only one throne in Heaven, Revelation 22:1 & 3 shows you that Jesus sits on the...
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    The Church, and Israel and the Last Days.

    LOL! This is a prime example of how you didn't understand one word in OMC's post there. OMC is telling you the DIFFERENCE between a judgement event and a rapture event and you read it all as the same rapture event.