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I think this conversation is about done and I think I've made my point. Goodbye

"Extra-biblical" and "opinions" are both meaningless in my view when it comes to scripture and the understanding of it; I'm not interested in either one. If it's "extra-biblical", its unscriptural and of no value, and similarly, if it's someone's opinion, it's of no value scripturally since it's...

I am NOT catholic

'katholikos' is not in the bible. And the apostle's creed is a writing created after scripture and not part of it although it may simply restate what is in scripture with other subtle inferences intended. Citing or reciting a statement or phrase repetitively is of no value, no different than...

It's all man-made-up unscriptural nonsense as is the apostle's creed which is unscriptural.

Yes, but delete the word "catholic" in your last statement. That's a man made-up word that doesn't reflect the true nature of the biblical church, nor is it structured or governed scripturally.

Not in the very least

Good. Just get lost

Take a hike

I always seek knowledge, but teachable?? I don't think so. I rely on my own abilities to read and understand the word of God.

Those aren't gifts wherein the Holy Spirit performs miraculously

I don't know what you mean by "ministry gifts", but if it falls into the category of 1corinthians 12:8-10, it ain't happening. No man has power from God today to do by his own doing, anything of a miraculous nature. There are strange, unexplainable things done all the time by virtue of the...

All those listed in 1 Corinthians 12:8-10, all of which were enabled by the laying on of the apostle's hands

I don't need Derek whomever. I believe the Word of God which is clear. Gifts have ended and are no longer necessary. Apostles are dead and Gifts cannot be enabled as a result thereof. That's very clear by scripture irrespective of what anyone says including Derek or you. Believe what you like.

Examples of prophecy and what was prophesied? Miracles, done by the hands of men?

And one thing for sure a church isn't: a/the building

If that's the case, you must have been asleep when he knocked on your door to speak to you.

So, "the perfect" is what specifically? The great day of the Lord? The appearing of Christ? Christ? What is "the perfect"?

You appear to be hung up on gifts, so I suggest you do a deep dive into how the gifts were made manifest. If you do, you find that the gifts, the miraculous manifestations of the Spirit, were imparted byvthe laying on of the apostle's hands; so thats bring the fact, its more possible that the...