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    The Church, and Israel and the Last Days.

    LOL! You're the ONLY one who's ever mentioned "half the world" with your 50/50 talk throughout every conversation. I'm only allergic to your one word, two word, and 50/50 answers. It's time for me to bow out and move on to a productive conversation where people understand what's being...
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    End of Days

    Revelation’s own sequence is: present age with tribulation, Satan bound from deceiving the nations as before, souls reigning with Christ, Satan released, final rebellion, then Christ’s return, judgment, and the new creation. The “millennium” in Revelation 20 is that intermediate, gospel age seen...
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    The Church, and Israel and the Last Days.

    It sounds as if you're afraid to say where this subgroup comes from.
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    End of Days

    I think you need to read your own response over again here because it sounds like you're saying that Satan is given limited ability to deceive people in HEAVEN unlike while were on the earth. The Bible makes it clear that the 1,000 years of peace will be a time ON EARTH when there will be no...
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    The Church, and Israel and the Last Days.

    Only because you didn't want to read the scriptures I posted. You're not interested in what the Bible says, you only want to protect your belief and doctrine, just as you accuse the rest of us of doing.
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    The Church, and Israel and the Last Days.

    So, in your view, who is the "group" that the half are taken out of?
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    End of Days

    Really? You want to call the 1,000 year reign of PEACE with Christ as the world we're living in today? Only because Satan hasn't been given his full power yet? The Bible says that Satan will be thrown into the Abyss during that 1,000 years, so he's not able to influence people at all. How do...
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    The Church, and Israel and the Last Days.

    If you had read my entire post, you would know that's not true. But I'm still not convinced that you understand what you're reading in the Bible or in my responses.
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    The Church, and Israel and the Last Days.

    NOBODY is changing the Bible. It's all just a matter of interpretation, and if you do some research on this particular topic, there is much debate that has never come to a definite conclusion.
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    The Church, and Israel and the Last Days.

    You could have saved us both a lot of time if you had just stated that in the beginning without your two or three word sentences. Now we're back to what Jesus told His disciples about what happened to the people who were being "taken" in Matthew 24. We've already discussed this twice. What...
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    The Church, and Israel and the Last Days.

    What are you saying happened before the flood? Jesus didn't remove Noah from the earth "before the flood", Noah road out the storm and the flood on earth until the his ark landed and then he restarted his life on earth. Noah was the good guy, the people who were swept away and killed in the...
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    The Church, and Israel and the Last Days.

    I never said I was a post-trib believer. I'm just telling you that I believe that the people being discussed in Matthew 24 are the ones still living on the earth during the tribulation period and how they will be sorted out when Jesus returns to earth at His second coming. If you believe in a...
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    The Church, and Israel and the Last Days.

    The fact that you won't confirm or deny what I asked you tells me that English may not be your first language and you're not reading the text in the way it was meant to be understood. For the last time, those verses in Matthew 24 are telling you that before Jesus returns for the Sheep & Goat...
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    The Church, and Israel and the Last Days.

    You do realize that Matthew 24:38 is only referring BACK to the flood as a reference to show what people will be like AGAIN when Jesus returns right? It's using the flood as a reference to describe what people will be like and what they will be doing. It's not a reference to describe another...
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    The Church, and Israel and the Last Days.

    There's nothing plain about what you just said because I can tell for the 4th time that you don't understand who the Bible is talking about in verse 39. The people in verse 38 are the ones who didn't know the flood was coming and got swept away in verse 39, not Noah.
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    The Church, and Israel and the Last Days.

    Which one are you? Because your posts are not coherent to me and I can't understand when you speak in two word sentences or descriptions. I'm assuming you're pre-trib rapture, like I just mentioned in my previous post?
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    The Church, and Israel and the Last Days.

    You're the one creating a setting that isn't there. Matthew 24 isn't talking about a rapture. It's most likely talking about the Great Tribulation period right before the Second Coming of Jesus when He will cut off 2/3 of the people living in the land and preserve 1/3 of them to remain in the...
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    The Church, and Israel and the Last Days.

    You're going to have to show me the Bible verses you are speaking about because you're not making any sense to me. Matthew 24 isn't talking about a flood or before the flood. It only says that people (like the one in the field and the one in bed) will be doing what they always do (like those...
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    The Church, and Israel and the Last Days.

    What is it with you and your 50%? Those verses are only showing that unbelievers are plucked up for judgement and others are left to remain. This is why I'm showing everyone that Jesus' Millennial Kingdom period is on earth and not in Heaven because Revelation 20 tells us that the Great White...
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    The Church, and Israel and the Last Days.

    The first fruits are the likes of the Disciples and the original followers and converts. They were not Gentiles. Jesus said He came for the lost sheep of Israel and let the Disciples minister to the Gentiles.