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I think it is you that does not understand, but I would like to see how you break it down, maybe start a new thread when you do ?

I do not disagree, I thought I stated that in my post

Anyway this is all off topic for the OP, I should of stayed quiet :)

I agree that is when it began, but we do not have the complete fulfilment yet - else why do we still have death ? Death and Hades are thrown into the lake of fire when the Kingdom and resurrection is established. If we have that now, why do things wax worse and worse and why do we still have death ?

Of course it applied to those reading it at the time. That is why the early church fathers prayed for the Roman Emperors, because they knew that according to the Revelation, once they were gone, the man of sin would appear, which did happen, the Papacy sat in the seat of the Roman Emperors...

Why would the Jews be told in Daniel 2 and 7 about the succession of Empires? Because at the end of everything we have the Kingdom of God, Paradise restored, the resurrection etc

To me it is all of human history from the time it was written until the time the physical Kingdom is established on Earth. What's that saying? Prophecy is history in the making, and History is prophecy fulfilled ? Or something like that :) To me chapter 9 is so detailed about Mohammed it can be...

The rise to its greatest extent of the Roman Empire, its fall, its division ? The rise of Mohammed in Revelation chapter 9 ? All that was imminent.

That is actually a very tidy chart compared to others i've seen. Some are so complex that they look like a plate of spaghetti

@OMC None of your arguments against what I have said has been convincing to me, so we will have to agree to disagree :) It is not like it is a salvation issue, unless you think otherwise ?

If the soul is immortal why can it be killed ? Joshua 11:11 And they smote all the souls that were therein with the edge of the sword, utterly destroying them: there was not any left to breathe: and he burnt Hazor with fire.

According to the Jewish Encyclopedia:

Once the spirit departs the body the body is dead. the spirit does not go on living, drifting around haunting people or whatever, it simply returns to the Lord. Only God is immortal, eternal life is ascribed exclusively to God and to celestial beings who "eat of the tree of life and live...

In Genesis 2:7 we have man formed from the dust of the ground and the elements of the earth, and God breathed into him the breath or spirit of life and he became a living soul. He did not have a living soul, he became a living soul. Earth (Body) Breath (Spirit) ______________ =Living Soul...

The Greeks and Indians developed this idea of an immortal soul further by saying that the soul not only lives on after the mortal body dies, but pre-exists the body and is ever lasting. The body was seen as a prison or cage for the soul. The belief in reincarnation comes from this idea of a...

According to most ministers there is no death after life you just go from one state to another. So when do you die? In Genesis God says thou shalt surely die Genesis 2:16 And the LORD God commanded the man, saying, Of every tree of the garden thou mayest freely eat: 17 But of the tree of the...

The breath returns to God not an immortal soul, and those quotes from the parable of the rich man are nothing to do with any afterlife- it is a teaching about the Jews rejecting Christ - the gospel going to the gentiles and the judement about burning their city in 70 AD

The spirit, which is the breath of life, returns to God who gave it. The breath of life or spirit, is the same word for wind, Ruah in Hebrew, Pneuma in Greek, which is where we get the words, Pneumatic and Pneumonia (meaning air). Jesus makes a play on this word in John 3 when talking to...

and none refer to an immortal soul is the point

Lets look at the raising of Lazarus. John 11:11 These things said he: and after that he saith unto them, Our friend Lazarus sleepeth; but I go, that I may awake him out of sleep. 12 Then said his disciples, Lord, if he sleep, he shall do well. 13 Howbeit Jesus spake of his death: but they...