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OMC History is a counter-intuitive venture. How human beings grasp time is important because it defines how we understand the time in which we live. Consequently, history calls us to choose from different versions of what has already happened. In our own lives innumerable things that have...

I have, in my youth, 20-24, lived in a community of the Latter Day Saints. I became fully aware of their their theology and what I consider their unsupported history. I have deep admiration for their "community." I support their insistence of the sanctity of marriage. Their evangelistic -...

Excellent summary

Retrospective, theology can go anywhere the compass points. Seems to me the story is about Judah's total 600 yr subjugation to Egypt, Babylone, Persia, Egypt Greece and Rome. For a very brief time via the Hasmoneans, Judea were free before the total destruction by Rome until in 70 AD and...

It is not my intention to obfuscate anyone or anybody that claims a "supernatural" experience. My point is that while after 72 yrs of Christianity, I have not personally seen the validity of "supernatural manifestations."

The prophets spoke to their own generation, yes, but they also spoke beyond their generation because the Spirit carried them to realities they themselves did not fully grasp .....and the angels longed to get a glimpse of. That does not mean that every prophecy was about Jesus. It does not mean...

Churchgoer: I appreciate the questions. Before I answer it, let me set the stage for my comments. I believe that by the nature of your question you see the objective as defined by knowledge. i.e. doctrine, theology and scripture. This may indicate that this conceptualization and framework of...

I do not "attack" anyone no matter what they believe. It not in my Christian makeup. 1 Corinthians 12 and 14 do not prove that the works or gifts of the Holy Spirit have stopped. In fact, these chapters provide instructions on how to use and regulate active spiritual gifts like prophecy...

I see it the other way. I believe God sent prophets to speak to the people of their time. The prophets raged against social injustice, then not now. They demanded people turn back to God, then not now. Constantly plumbing the Hebrew Bible to extract a revelation secretly written to people who...

We have verified reports of Works of the Holy Spirit up until the merger of the State and Christianity in 383 AD. Throughout the entire span between 383 AD (shortly after the Council of Constantinople solidified the orthodox doctrine of the Holy Spirit's deity) and 1900 AD, millions of...

OMC: Your designation of Isaiah 56-66 as some kind of Messianic restoration polemic is not supported by that text, in my opinion. Isaiah 56 focuses on two major themes: God's inclusion of marginalized outcasts into His covenant, and a severe rebuke of Israel’s corrupt, blind leaders. The...

Ok, perhaps an overstatement on my part. Paul did not "rescind" the instructions he was given on the issues under discussion. Let's agree that he "reframed" those prohibitions. Starting with "idols are nothing" Paul states that food itself is spiritually neutral. An idol is nothing but wood or...

As we have discussed "prophetic texts" are whatever you choose them to be. Let's look at the full context of Isaiah 56 to see the actual exegesis of the snippet you provided: This is what the LORD says: “Maintain justice and do what is right, for My salvation is coming soon, and My righteousness...

I understand your point of view. It's unstated presupposition is that there can be no conflicts allowed by the reader. The hermeneutical approach is that no conflict is allowed. Thus any "plausible" explanation takes precedence over what is most likely. Proof texting from Hebrew Bible snippets...

Interesting: OMC A few notes. The first Bishop of Rome (Excluding Peter) was Linus. Later medieval traditions and accounts, such as those found in the Liber Pontificalis, attribute numerous active miracles to Linus himself. These include performing exorcisms—specifically casting a demon out of...

Tall_Timbes You are correct that there are two accounts of Jesus overturning tables of the money changers in the temple. However, there is no basis for it having happened twice. In Matthew, Mark and Luke they place Jesus overturning the table of the temple money changers on the last week of...

OMC: There is curious history associated with the general idea of "Gifts of the Holy Spirit," "Spiritual Gifts" ect. There is no doubt that the early church 70 AD - 380 AD experienced many and varied forms of these manifestations of the Holy Spirit. We have evidence from Gifts of the Holy...

Inquisitor: Pardon me for butting to this discussion. I am fully aware of the historic rise of the current Pentecostal"Spirit led Christianity" movement dating back to 1906. I am also aware there have been great "Spirit led reawakenings in the past as well. The great American revivals of the...

Dino246 How would you compare your awareness of Paul's "time sensitive" and "cultural sensitive" admonitions to Jesus chapter long: Matthew 25: 31“When the Son of Man comes in his glory and all the angels with him, then he will sit on his glorious throne. 32All the nations will be assembled...