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The believing remnant is an enemy of the gospel? Romans 11:28 As concerning the gospel, they are enemies for your sakes: but as touching the election, they are beloved for the fathers' sakes.

Who is the election in this verse then? Other than the people of Israel? Who else could it be referring to when it says for the fathers' sake? I take the fathers to be a reference to Abraham, Isaac and Jacob

You really don't want to be playing that card. Are you sure you want to lock in that answer? The palestinians revere a man who married a 6 year old. Islam is the undisputed religion of perversion on this earth. Why are you ignoring the sins of Hamas and the "palestinians"?

Romans 11:28 ""As concerning the gospel, they are enemies for your sakes: but as touching the election, they are beloved for the fathers' sakes.""

A lot of this mess comes from people imagining elect or chosen means saved. There is only one way to be saved and that is by the blood of Jesus and both jew and gentile must believe the gospel. You can be part of God's chosen people and still die as a lost man. Many such cases. King Saul...

I will comment on this since this wasn't discussed in the original thread by the looks of it: When it says 'only' son Isaac, it says so because Isaac was the only son of promise. Ishmael was born of the flesh.

Sorry I haven't paid attention to this thread in a while. But I do agree with you on the meaning of olam many times not meaning everlasting. The mosaic covenant is a great example of it. It was to be from generation to generation, forever, yet we are told in the new testament it has become...

Is your thesis that the Old Testament is corrupted? My question would then be, how do you pick and choose what is true and what is not?

My view is that this is talking about succession of kingdoms from the perspective of Nebuchadnezzar the king of Babylon. Whoever conquers the areas of the last empire is the successor. Therefore Rome is not the last one, but the caliphate is. Rome never conquered the areas of the kingdom of...

I haven't met any either. It is a very new movement, hardly two hundred years old and very small and cultic. You will run into these people on the internet but in real life? Not so much. Satan has stolen the word of God from people by making them believe only a small portion of it applies to...

What about the great commission? It was given to the 12, not Paul and they were told to go to all the nations and baptize them and teach them. If that Gospel is only to the circumcised, why go into all the nations? Why did Peter go to Cornelius?

Doesn't have to be every single person but representative of those nations. You just made that symbol up. That is my problem. The sabbath rest is spoken of as a symbol for our rest in Christ. But where does it say that about the feast of tabernacles? No where. If you are for some reason...

I know the chapters are manmade. But I am glad to see you believe in a future second coming

No answer. I have heard some preterist interpretations but I just don't believe it. It is so far fetched. You would never come up with these esoteric hidden knowledge interpretations by just reading the Bible for yourself. You need a man to tell you what it means, there needs to be some...

I read the chapter in the Septuagiant and it also has Jesus returning to the mount of olives? Doesn't change the fact at all. People will still be coming to keep the feast of tabernacles in Jerusalem. Why wont you believe what the Bible says? You say it already happened @HeIsHere but won't...

Do you believe these verses teach these people never sinned? The Bible teaches all have sinned, including Noah. Remember Noah got drunk after the flood and bad things happened. That is only the stuff we are told

Hahaha. I had a feeling you would say that. If you truly believe Zechariah 14 already happened language has lost all meaning and you are dead in the water.

No I am NOT a dispensationalist. I just believe the Bible. He needs a Jewish Jerusalem because of Zechariah 14: 4 And his feet shall stand in that day upon the mount of Olives, which is before Jerusalem on the east, and the mount of Olives shall cleave in the midst thereof toward the east and...

Every nation is technically an evil regime to a certain extent. Despite all its faults and sins America is still sending out the most missionairies in the world and supporting the Gospel financially more than any other nation. Just ask yourself, would I rather live in America or Iraq? I take...

Remember that not everyone is an American or dispensationalist. I am neither. What I am is someone who believes that Jerusalem will have Jews residing in it when the Lord Jesus returns. Whether that is in a state of Israel or a state of Jordan is not the point, the point is that God's...