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  1. 2Christ

    The seal of God

    yeah it was en explosion. I was blasted upwards...lol
  2. 2Christ

    The seal of God

    @Watchman22 many things happened not just one, I had been looking for the truth my whole life and read so many religious books, when I got my hands on the Holy Bible, while reading John it happened there, reading chapter 17, then I ""Knew"" I had finally found the true God I was in a state pf...
  3. 2Christ

    5 minutes is not enough time to edit a post.

    at least 30 minutes would be nice
  4. 2Christ

    The seal of God

    why are you so impatient, are you giving me a test? i don't like exams.
  5. 2Christ

    OSAS origins and comparison

    Dave, the motive is love. The rest flows consequently, like water flowing in its riverbed
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    OSAS origins and comparison

    So Dave what will you do? you have to decide, time is short. ill just tell you this, take every word Jesus said very seriouly and do what he asks, your eternal life depends on it. His message never changed and never will.
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    The seal of God

    this topic is a complex one and we do not have a full picture, here are a few things to consider also: When we compare the Hebrew text with the ancient Greek Septuagint, Syriac Peshitta, and Latin Vulgate, the comparison is very revealing. There is a stronger connection between Cain's mark...
  8. 2Christ

    The seal of God

    Oh You know it very well when the spirit is received, for me also some spiritual gifts and at this time I am tested almost beyond what I can endure, it is why endurance is so important.
  9. 2Christ

    The seal of God

    I agree that a topical study should consider Scripture as a whole. But the meaning of a word must still come from the context, and “sealed” does not automatically mean “final and irreversible salvation.” The passages you cited say that believers are sealed with the Holy Spirit, but they do not...
  10. 2Christ

    The seal of God

    it is very personal what you ask and I will answer but will not give the details and to me receiving the Holy Spirit and being taught by Him to follow Christ are part of the same work of God in us. Revelation specifically describes God's servants being sealed on their foreheads before the...
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    OSAS origins and comparison

    Your argument is problematic and assumes the very thing it is trying to prove: that receiving the Spirit makes final salvation impossible to lose. Jesus never said that. You say that “abide in Him,” “keep His commandments,” and “overcome” are only evidence of salvation. But Jesus gives these as...
  12. 2Christ

    The seal of God

    I understand the picture you are describing, and there is certainly a beautiful biblical idea behind God marking His people as His own. But we must be carefull not to turn symbols into meanings that Scripture itself does not give them. Revelation specifically says that the servants of God are...
  13. 2Christ

    The seal of God

    I understand what you mean by “church saints” and “tribulation saints.” There is certainly a distinction in Scripture between believers living at different times, and Revelation clearly speaks of saints who are present during the great tribulation. But I would be careful about turning that into...
  14. 2Christ

    The seal of God

    There is a lot of confusion about the “seal of God.” Some teach that the moment a person believes, he is permanently sealed by God and that nothing he does afterward can ever change his final destiny. Others speak as though the seal and the Holy Spirit are exactly the same thing. But when we put...
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    OSAS origins and comparison

    The Bible does teach that God's people are sealed, and the Holy Spirit is God's gift and mark upon those who belong to Him. But we must be careful not to add to what Scripture actually says. Jesus never taught that once a person believes, nothing he does afterward can ever affect his...
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    The Rejection of Obedience

    Hello David, Many do make this mistake, that is to say that people who promote obedience by following what Christ commanded us are sinless and promote this. this is absolutely false and it is used as a common excuse but is not, no one here promotes this sinless perfection only God/Jesus is perfect.
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    The Rejection of Obedience

    Hello David, Jesus started his ministry preaching repentance from sin and the kingdom of Heaven and he did tell everyone who heart, how to enter it!. His sacrifice atoning for our sins made all things possible but one must be willing to take they cross and follow him. the way is narrow and...
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    OSAS origins and comparison

    yes you are right if course, but what pains me deeply to my core is that many do not know what Jesus said, that one is hard to swallow, they remember his name and the cross in general but the rest they ignore, yet Jesus said so much and wants to save us all but as he said few will make it. I am...
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    OSAS origins and comparison

    Who Is Sealed, Why, and When? You are making a very strong conclusion from the word “sealed,” but there is an important question that must be answered first: Who is sealed, why are they sealed, and when are they sealed? The seal of God certainly means that something belongs to God and is under...
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    OSAS origins and comparison

    so you declare the gospel of Paul the only one that can save? what about the gospel of Jesus the son pf God? can grace alone save you? what is grace exactly simply believing or is it more? What did Jesus say for one to have eternal life? did not Jesus say we who believe in Him must endure to the...