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Mark 9:43-49: If your hand causes you to stumble, cut it off. It is better for you to enter life maimed than with two hands go into hell, where the fire never goes out. And if your foot causes you to stumble, cut it off. It is better for you to enter life crippled than to have two feet and be...

Yes. Thank you. :giggle:

Interesting approach. There are also those who resort to "euthanasia". Clearly, people who don't believe in God and hell.

I don't believe it speaks of the ultimate fate of the wicked. It is Jesus Christ who represents the biggest revelation of God, thus, we should look at what He has to say about the kingdom of God and the ultimate fate of the wicked. Why do you think the fire is "everlasting" if its purpose was...

Sodomah and Gomorah were destroyed by material fire. The fire in hell is of another nature and is, like you pointed out with biblical verses, everlasting.

It all boils down to this: what is more scary: to be tortured and/or destroyed, or to be separated from God? A real christian should be able to say: give me hell, but don't separate me from my sweet Jesus Christ! And this was exaclty the attitude of the early martyrs who would rather die...

To Runningman, who cherrypicked some biblical verses (from the Old Testament) to sustain his view and asked me how do I understand them. I understand them in balance to the verses from the New Testament which talk about eternal suffering. In the parable of the ten virgins, five are accepted...

Those who claim that hell is "anihilation" either try to win converts by appealing to their instinctual fear of death, or they try to give a "humanistic" face to hell, whom they perceive too cruel. Their reasoning goes something like this: it's too cruel to suffer eternally, it's more "human" to...

We are running in circles, because you understand death as being anihilation, whereas the Church understands death as separation from Life. Life with capital L. Death is the state of being outside of God. There are varying degrees of the same faith. Jesus Christ revealed Himself on various...

The Holy Communion is the central point of the christian faith: it is the real body and blood of Jesus Christ. The Church is not a building, but the Body of Christ. We become members of His Body through participation in the life of the Church.

I understood perfectly what you said, what period of time you were reffering to. They met in catacombs in order to eat the Body and drink the Blood of Jesus Christ. I no longer remember where I have read this, but, I read that christians used the catacombs not so much as hiding places, but as...

I realized you are either a seventh day adventist, or a Jehovah witness. If it's not the case, you certainly sound like one of the two. Which is why, I don't see a reason to continue the debate because you have an entirely different theology and that is the cause of our misunderstanding. I am...

You consider 'destruction' of the wicked a more 'human' way to deal with the unsaved. Eternal torment, as the Church One understands it, doesn't mean that the devils torture you and boil you in hot water. Eternal torment comes from the person's incapacity of loving. We have this life (rather...

Death is the consequence of sin. God became flesh in order to conquer death, the thing that parasites our relation with God; remember: God created man for communion. This communion is broken by sin. We commit sins, but as long as we are alive (our bios is alive), we can repent and get closer to...

And yet, that's exactly what the early church did: meet in a specific place, on specific days in order to eat the Holy Body and drink the precious Blood of Jesus Christ. This is what gave them power to confess Him and power to endure the tortures and persecutions they had been subject to. I...

God is Life. Men can not be in communion with God as long as he worships death under the form of the goodies and temptations of this earthly world. When man repents (undergoes metanoia - changing of the mind, adquisition of the mind of God), he receives the uncreated grace of God and is drawn...

1. God interacted with Adam and Eve when they were in the garden of Eden (paradise on earth, somewhere in Irak)). After their sin they have been chased from Eden, sin and death contaminated the creation and the humans, Eden had been destroyed and this is how the human drama begins. God...

The phrase I put in bold is not true. They did not die of a physical death in the very next moment, they actually got to live a lot of years on earth, but separated from God (spiritual death): they used to live in the garden Eden and after their sin, they have been chased out of heaven (being...

It’s not written black on white. Jesus Christ talks about the second death when he says that we shan’t be afraid of those who can kill the body, but rather fear those who can kill both the body and the soul and throw them into the lake of fire. Revelations 2, 11 mentions it too. In Revelations...

second death = eternal torment The death (separation of God) those in hell experience is conscious. When the Kingdom of God comes, we will be in eternity. We will be given knew bodies: those who are saved will be clothed in Christ, and the unsaved will be naked (whithout glory), they are...