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    "Not by works" - false!

    Not convincing enough.
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    "Not by works" - false!

    God chose them but Israel rejected Him, hence the remnant is spoken of. Jesus died for the world, everyone, all. He will draw all men to Himself. I guess you know those scriptures so I don't have to repeat them. We send ourselves to hell but now Jesus will draw all men to Himself. According...
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    "Not by works" - false!

    John 3:16" for God so loved the world that he give his only begotten son, that whoever believes in him may not perish but have eternal life. God extended His love to fallen men by sending His son as an atoning sacrifice for our sins. The invitation is for all but the application is for those...
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    If His grace is irrisistable, then why doesn't he choose everyone to go to heaven?. Why send some to heaven and others to hell. I can't bear the mystery of these doctrine but I can definitely bear the mystery of God's sovereignty and man's free will. Everyone must be invited to recieve the...
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    Honestly, I was not thinking about the sheep being given to the Son by the Father, I missed that part. What is your take on it? I understand where you are coming from, however, its implication is that of me being immutable. It's like saying God inserted His unchanging nature in me. God's...
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    Yes"The greatness of the father, not of the flock is the ground of the safety of the flock". But we can't negate the fact that emphasis is also placed on the sheep that listens, follows and are known by God. Listening and following are essential in a life of a true believer, hence Jesus...
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    "Not by works" - false!

    Let me put it this way: I am possessed with the gift of Faith that comes from God, therefore, I can't help it but do whatever it requires me to do. If that's the case, then am leaning towards fatalism which excludes man's free will.
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    "Not by works" - false!

    Honestly speaking, the Calvinist doctrine of salvation is persuasive at a glance. It gives God all the credit but becomes problematic when one delves into it. It seems like you have made a comparison of the two doctrines(Armenian and Calvinism)and have chosen to bear the mystery of God's...
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    "Not by works" - false!

    John10:27-29 My sheep listen to my voice; I know them, and they follow me. I give them eternal life, and they shall never perish; no one can snatch them out of my hand. My father who has given them to me, is greater than all; no one can snatch them out of my father's hand". In this text, Jesus...
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    Sorry Sir. I did not ignore your question, I think I was not focused or I probably considered it as a rhetorical question. I read it again and according to Psalm5:5, God hates all who do wrong. God is holy in that he is separated from evil and those who do evil, His love is holy, His justice is...
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    "Not by works" - false!

    1Jon4:10 "This is love: not that we loved God, but that he loved us and sent his Son as an atoning sacrifice for our sins" 1John4:14 "And we have seen and testify that the Father has sent his Son to be savior of the world". He extended His grace to a sinful world by sending His son as an...
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    "Not by works" - false!

    According to Calvinism , predestination and fatalism are not the same thing. Predestination does not exclude free will Fatalism excludes free will and gives life no meaning. I might be wrong about their definition. Please share your knowledge of it.
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    "Not by works" - false!

    Okay let's agree to disagree. I believe God has not predestined people to go to hell.
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    "Not by works" - false!

    Amen, thank you Rosemaryx 💐. Your so sweet.
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    "Not by works" - false!

    I used the words unfair and favoritism in the context of salvation, Most of the things that you mentioned are a topic for another day. SALVATION is my emphasis God is love and cares about the well being of mankind. He loves everyone and desires that all be saved. My description of God's...
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    "Not by works" - false!

    I am not comfortable with the idea that God sends some to heaven while leaving others to burn in hell. I would rather choose to be labeled a heretic by believing a person chooses hell when they deny Christ.
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    "Not by works" - false!

    I understand where your coming from and everything your saying is logical. The strength of the doctrine seems to lie in the word "fairness", but that does not mean God chose some and left others out to burn in hell. I am not familiar with the doctrine of the fairness of God but the God that I...
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    "Not by works" - false!

    Okay, I think it's unfair for God to choose some and leave others out. Salvation is not for the elite club.
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    "Not by works" - false!

    Yes it's sad. I agree with you. The Bible is my number 1. All these systems are infallible.