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  1. randyk

    Revelation 4 interpretation

    Those who take upon themselves God's job of cursing Christians need to do the repenting.
  2. randyk

    Revelation 4 interpretation

    Yes, I'll let the Lord do the cursing, if you will?
  3. randyk

    Revelation 4 interpretation

    There is equally a danger in ignoring what we read in the book of Revelation. We're told we're blessed if we read and *do* what is written in it. So everything there is designed to get us to serve Christ. And we don't have to be afraid of doing that. We know that the book of Revelation is a...
  4. randyk

    Revelation 4 interpretation

    Yes, the 7 stars are 7 angels, and the 7 spirits may also be 7 angels. I know the Holy Spirit is not 7 spirits. And humans are not just spirits. So, angels must be the ministering spirits in the book of Revelation, representing both God and Mankind in their duties.
  5. randyk

    Revelation 4 interpretation

    I believe Isa 11 is speaking of 7 aspects of the spiritual life of Christ. There is only one Holy Spirit. All other holy creatures are creatures, and not God. As spirits, I think the 7 spirits are therefore speaking of 7 angels.
  6. randyk

    Revelation 4 interpretation

    As far as I know there is only one Holy Spirit? That's why I believe they are 7 *angels* which represent the 7 churches.
  7. randyk

    Revelation 4 interpretation

    Rev 4.4 After this I looked, and there before me was a door standing open in heaven. And the voice I had first heard speaking to me like a trumpet said, “Come up here, and I will show you what must take place after this.” 2 At once I was in the Spirit, and there before me was a throne in heaven...
  8. randyk

    Contrasting Israel with the Church

    No, "nation" and "kingdom" are not perfectly interchangeable. They can be interchangeable at times for sure. But in the matter I was arguing nations do not have to be kingdoms. For example, Israel today is a nation, but not a "kingdom." You seem to have a problem with God using human...
  9. randyk

    Contrasting Israel with the Church

    On the contrary, God created men to rule on earth, to subdue the earth under his feet. God anointed certain leaders in ancient Israel to rule them--not necessarily as kings, but often as prophets. God ruled as these "prophets" heard and delivered the word of God to Israel. When God allowed...
  10. randyk

    Contrasting Israel with the Church

    I could just as easily say that you're rebelling against God because that is exactly what He did during the Davidic Kingdom, and precisely what He promised Abraham--the nation Israel and many nations serving the God of Abraham. How easily you dismiss history and the promises of God! This was...
  11. randyk

    to do or not to do

    I disagree. Everything God does by His word is reasonable. "Come now, let us reason together," says the Lord.
  12. randyk

    Contrasting Israel with the Church

    This is a nice exchange of ideas with someone who shared some basic truths of the Gospel, in contrast with the failures of Judaism.... Someone said: In these verses we see a man who, although at one time was full of hatred, now displays love for his fellow man. As a one time zealous Pharisee...
  13. randyk

    to do or not to do

    I know you didn't say water has magical properties. But if it is a command to use the element of water to obtain Salvation then the water itself either cleanses from sin or it doesn't. If we are cleansed purely by the Word of God why would Water Baptism be a command?
  14. randyk

    to do or not to do

    You don't know what comes out of your own "mouth?" You questioned whether I have the "genuine Jesus!" You questioned "which Jesus" I was listening to! Really, you have no clue what made me somewhat defensive? Are you really? When you act like you don't know what offended me, you are not...
  15. randyk

    to do or not to do

    Really? ;) You think *you* alone have the genuine Jesus? You think *you* are the only one to teach others who the "real Jesus" is? I could easily say that your spirit is wrong, and that *you* have the wrong Jesus. But that wouldn't be right. The fact is, you are right that many Christians are...
  16. randyk

    to do or not to do

    Although being "Born of Water" is not Water Baptism, it is the symbol of rebirth. We are Born Again by receiving the Word of God and by means of the Holy Spirit. Being Water Baptised is purely symbolic of the regeneration that takes place when we receive Christ's Word, which cleanses us. Water...
  17. randyk

    to do or not to do

    That's an invalid argument. Being "born of water" is not "Water Baptism." It doesn't even say "Water Baptism." So you're calling me more ignorant than a child for not believing something you made up. It's obvioiusly so. One is not "born of Water Baptism." A person only gets Water Baptized...
  18. randyk

    to do or not to do

    You ignored the most important question: where in the NT are we *commanded* to water baptize? A "pattern" is not a "command!" Jesus made the Great Commission *after* the Cross. That is when he told them to baptize. Since you found no NT command to Water Baptize, other than to the Apostles, I'm...
  19. randyk

    to do or not to do

    A pattern of Christian living, but not necessarily as ministry. As I said, the Apostle Paul told us that we do not all hve the same gift, that not all are apostles. Again, not every command was for all Christians. Some commands were strictly for Jesus' Apostles at a particular point in time...
  20. randyk

    to do or not to do

    You're not following the arguments--I apologize if I'm not clear enough. I wasn't suggesting you believe we're under the Law. I was using a principled argument, that if we "emulate" Moses we are *not* following any command to obey the Law. So the argument is, What is "emulating?" You've said...