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It will be such deception. Those with the mark will adore that mark.. It will make them beam with satisfaction. They will also say " man am i ever glad I was so wise to get this wonderful tattoo and chip" They will point to believers in open air camps waiting their fate and say: "look at those...

Her vision or dream was pretrib rapture. I investigated this. SHE WAS A POSTRIBBER. She believed the church has to go through the trib for cleansing. That's the difference. I investigate everything. So if you think she was crazy, then that is showcasing your position as wild and crazy. Oh...

That gathering is indeed after the trib, but not by Jesus. It says "jesus sends." He does no gathering. He sends angels. They are gathered to the white horses. Assembled on horses in heaven and they await for the commander to take the lead horse.

It is showcased in Rev 5 5 And one of the elders saith unto me, Weep not: behold, the Lion of the tribe of Judah, the Root of David, hath prevailed to open the book, and to loose the seven seals thereof.

Yes I partially agree, but the priesthood is definately under Judah now. IOW OUR high priest Jesus is framed by heaven as Judah...Jewish. Rev 5 5 And one of the elders saith unto me, Weep not: behold, the Lion of the tribe of Judah, the Root of David, hath prevailed to open the book, and to...

Could be. I think at the AOD he will be figured out.

Pretend it is fake. Follow your teachers. They have done wonders for you.

Study more. You are avoiding what is there. Unearned men have lead you.

The AC is Known to us believers at his arrival on the white horse. He kicks off the 7yr trib. The world will not know. The Jews will not know.

The new covenant is beyond ethnicity. Ethnicity has absolutely nothing to do with being born again. Their are two covenants. That new one it also the new testament. There has to be a testator. There has to be a death. It had to be a jewish death. The ot died and Jesus died. Now look at the...

Exactly, and it is "capped off" in Rev 14. The Jewish harvest. All to the marriage supper in heaven. GOD thought of everything. Those martyrs receive the martyrs crown. The highest crown in heaven Remember the principle in the ot of the "second born"? We are the second born. We precede...

^^^^^^^^^^^^^^THIS^^^^^^^^^^^^ It says that. That is simply what it says. No way around it. Such "valiant" efforts to "hope it away".

Just ignore rev 13. You will be ok. I can only report. Not make you see

Your speculation against my verses. Step up. Let's go.

No you have solidly been shown verses. Tell the truth

I am only pointing out that All means all. ...as it is written. IOW, Look at psalm 91. The promise of our protection. Look at all the born again believers that weren't protected by Psalm 91.( in the present) Why? Because Psalm 91 has 3 CONDITIONS. 3 conditions for those "passive" promises...

The jews are left. They are gathered in Rev 14. Then, like you say, the sinners are left alone with their god. Enter the wrath, the second half of the 7yr trib.

QUOTE "We agree many are martyred. We agree the beast wages war against them. We agree a great multitude appears in heaven. What I'm still asking for is the verse that says the entire second group has been eliminated before Christ returns." I can rest in what it says. You forgot the part that...

Jesus said "all israel shall be saved." We know not all will be saved. Jesus knows not all will be saved. Jesus told the disciples " not one hair on your head will be harmed". Yet all but John were brutally murdered. I know how to unpack all that. It takes a trip to heaven to accurately divide...

Verses 7 , 8, and 16, are saying ALL ON THE FACE OF THE EARTH. 3 witnesses that ALL the earth take the mark. Not believers. They get martyred for refusing.