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He could be revealed tomorrow. Then the rapture could be day after tomorrow.

There are 2 wives. Gomer. Ruth. Rev 14 is not the bride of christ. Rev 14 is Gomer, illustrated in Hosea, and prophesied she would be re purchased in romans chapters 9-11

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I am pointing to the subject matter of the 144,000. THEY ARE FIRSTFRUITS ...FACT. JESUS IS OUR FIRSTFRUITS...FACT. THAT is 2 entirely different dynamics. If the 144,000 are FIRSTFRUITS , THEN what are they firstfruits of????? That is my point. It is cannonized eternally in Gods word. You...

Amen. Every single time. I was once lost. Then came Jesus. Now I am like Him. I hate what He hates. Love people hate the devil

I believe the bible. It says they follow the Lamb wherever he goes. The 144,000 are born again Jews. You saying Jews can not be born again? You want me or somebody to tell them Jews can not be born again?

Are you saying your firstfruits is not Jesus. Who is the firstfruits of the church ? The 144,000 is Jesus?

Then you have a problem You have a different firstfruits than the church Jesus is the firstfruits of the church You have something other than that as your firstfruits? 144,000, as your firstfruits? See what happens when "intellect" attempts to unpack Revelation?

No. It is what it says. If you need it changed then you need a new starting place. God went the extra mile to list them as who they are and numbered them in more than one way. But beyond that , he put up a guard rail against changing them into a made up doctrine enhancer. They are FIRSTFRUITS...

Show me anywhere that Jesus or an apostle was nice and loving to the devil or demons. God hates sin and God hates the devil. The Muslim people are valued and precious. Their demon religion is horrible and demon infested.

Yes. You and I are different. Anyone or any religion demon possessed needs help. Not lipstick and makeup as you are suggesting. In fact you defend the demon. Sad. You have no discernment.

(The 144,000 are ethnic Jewish born again believers.)

Who appears to who in Rev 14:14? Remember, the 144,000 ETHNIC JEWS are the firstfruits of the rev 14:14 gathering.

It is a demon religion with a demon book. I will never coddle it. Or defend it. What are you doing???? What is your motive??????

That is obvious. We all know that That is not the debate at all. Their are millions of Messianic born again Jews. We all know that. We all know they came to faith through Jesus. The covenant Jews gathered during the trib...WHAT DOES IT SAY???? "....and they followed the Lamb wherever he goes"...

Exactly . That iscwhyvthey spiritualize the ethnic jewish 144 just. It is appalling that the RT. Are ignorant that the 144,000 are FIRSTFRUITS. FIRSTFRUITS declaration destroys their entire deal. One word. One dynamic from heaven,cooks their entire deal. Jesus is the FIRSTFRUITS OF TGE...

The 144,000 are ethnic jews. Tell it God. Tell him he made a mistake.

Especially since God went to all the trouble to illustrate it and declare it. Part of it is they are oblivious to the dynamic of "covenant"

The ENTIRE FOCUS of GODS PLAN AND PURPOSE is that the throne of David be re-established. Im sure you know that, but it is appalling that people are in here and since they do not have the correct panoramic picture, they insert several concepts into end times. Therefore they CANNOT DISCERN...

Nope. Just the opposite. ...and where pray tell is he chained for 1000 years? Hint....where is his mischief?