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  1. fredoheaven

    Romans 10:9 - Salvation

    You have a nice copy and paste and nothing worry about. Btw, i love KJb
  2. fredoheaven

    Romans 10:9 - Salvation

    Where are typo in here? Thanks 😊
  3. fredoheaven

    The Error of KJV-Onlyism

    Thank you for the invitation
  4. fredoheaven

    Understanding God’s election

    My general/ critical observation is that I failed to see such a comparison of related/ similar words during discussions and you are stating your view. Well anyway so much for this.:)
  5. fredoheaven

    Understanding God’s election

    Exactly you are trying to persuade me but I choose not. I like comparing scripture with scripture but are we doing it? Umm...
  6. fredoheaven

    Understanding God’s election

    You misread Stong. He's not really sure if it is. and then again jumping from another Gk word which is "ago". You are just trying to tweak it with a biased interpretation. The "bringing' of the people means not to drag but to lead, guide, or direct. For some info, 'bring ' in 1611 means to...
  7. fredoheaven

    Understanding God’s election

    Correct me if I am wrong but you are quoting Strong's incorrectly. Strongs asserts only as "probably akin to haireō G138" which speaks likely but not certainly. Chances are when one quotes differently, it literally means a different thing. Here is your quote by the way: "for the word draw...
  8. fredoheaven

    Understanding God’s election

    Yes, I posted the fact and you may have purposely done it to prove your point but perhaps in a biased way. The word “draw” has different nuances and it may mean a simple ‘traction’ that you are trying to point to and that God is active and men are passive. However, the word “draw” has yet...
  9. fredoheaven

    Understanding God’s election

    Using Strong’s 1670 of the Gk. “helko” which is Thayer's definition could mean literally or figuratively, however, it is pointed out that in the case of John 6:44 is not to be interpreted literally but rather metaphorically considered as figurative language. See the definition No.2 2...
  10. fredoheaven

    Understanding God’s election

    True, either they redefine or jump to the other topic and this is subtlety being cornered behind.:cool:
  11. fredoheaven

    Understanding God’s election

    The fact that they differ means they are not the same :)
  12. fredoheaven

    Understanding God’s election

    of course this is from not b4. It speaks in time and not eternity
  13. fredoheaven

    Understanding God’s election

    Yes for eternity but not before the foundation of the world.
  14. fredoheaven

    Understanding God’s election

    And, the Biblical Rufus was chosen in the Lord not for eternity. Romans 16:13 Salute Rufus chosen in the Lord, and his mother and mine.
  15. fredoheaven

    Understanding God’s election

    A biblical definition of the word ‘testify’ s in the immediate context following the phrase “bearing witness” v.27, thus we have the witness. The witness is to tell the truth about what he has seen firsthand. The role of the Holy Spirit is to attest to the truth and his disciples at the same...
  16. fredoheaven

    Understanding God’s election

    John 15:26 KJV — But when the Comforter is come, whom I will send unto you from the Father, even the Spirit of truth, which proceedeth from the Father, he shall testify of me: John 15:27 KJV — And ye also shall bear witness, because ye have been with me from the beginning. Who shal testify or...
  17. fredoheaven

    Understanding God’s election

    And yet it is the will of the Father to believe. Well, those who want to enter with their own efforts or their own ways or works cannot do so. The context saying of mere professions as many claim , hence qualified by Christ as workers of iniquity. What lesson being learned is that they have...
  18. fredoheaven

    Understanding God’s election

    Well, correct if i am wrong, tge text us not about the drawing, illumination or conviction but testifying as the other passages would tell us. Thanks
  19. fredoheaven

    Understanding God’s election

    Umm, you might try to re read the context. The given text is not what being said of what you are to convey. While it is true he is said to be a comforter, he is also the Spirit of truth, bearing witness as the disciples have to bear witness of what Christ did. To whom the disciples and the...
  20. fredoheaven

    Understanding God’s election

    Not to be argumentative here but this is not what you have quoted as good proof text, 'afterall, trying' is not ' believing'. Big difference, unless you redefine faith as work. ;)