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Salvation is by Faith. Without Faith there can be no Salvation. If faith comes from you it is a work. If faith comes as a gift of God it is not your work. Therefore, when you say Faith IS NOT a gift of God, you are saying Salvation is by YOUR WORK. I AM SAYING, Faith is a Gift of God and...

So the Lord was just joking around, again? :ROFL::ROFL::ROFL: Before "regeneration" you could stir up belief in yourself and CAUSE God to give you Salvation through Grace. But afterwards, you can do nothing without Him...:ROFL::ROFL::ROFL: Jesus answer was/is a FACT. The Work of God is to...

Because Faith is a gift as well. Otherwise, the payment for YOUR WORK OF BELIEF would be Salvation. And Salvation would be by work. But its not. Salvation doesn't come from you and its not of works, except Gods. You just explained why Faith is a gift of God. Good job.

Its incredibly simple. But you don't WANT to understand it. Ezekiel 36:26 A new heart also will I give you, and a new spirit will I put within you: and I will take away the stony heart out of your flesh, and I will give you an heart of flesh. Faith, that results in Salvation, is a gift of...

IF it is ANYTHING that YOU have to generate inside YOURSELF in order to cause God to act, then its a work. If it is a Gift of God and God is the first cause, then it is NOT a works. That's the VERY easy way to tell if something is a work or not. Are you Righteous because of something you do...

Even your own words are nonsensical to you. Think about this sentence that YOU wrote. Try to understand it. Then see if the post you were responding to is "nonsensical".

Yes. YOU Changed what the Lord Jesus said to fit YOUR imagination. The Lord didn't answer their question in the way that YOU wish and the way your IMAGINATION says. The Lord told them what the work of God was. The work that No One can do until they are drawn to Christ and given the Gift of...

NOT the work that God "requires". The work that God DOES. You are changing the wording and meaning to try and fit your imagination. It won't work. The Lord Jesus was just kidding...:ROFL: Wow. Now I've heard it all. A Greek lexicon isn't needed for this in the slightest. All you have...

Exactly. I didn't think this was that difficult.

Exactly. The heart is desperately wicked. This desperately wicked heart isn't capable of working the works of God. This is like explaining facts to a stubborn 2 yr old... John 6:29 Jesus answered and said unto them, This is the work of God, that ye believe on him whom he hath sent. The...

Greek grammar has NOTHING to do with the part that says Not Of Yourselves. Your Greek grammar argument is with what is the gift of God. That is pure silliness as well, in light of the rest of the 2 following verses.

You can observe the curvature of the earth anytime you fly in an airplane and it gets to cruising altitude. True science shows that the earth rotates on its axis. See Foucaults Pendulum and Coriolis. See calculations for long range artillery and the rotation of the earth. Observe the...

What is the point of God giving us a New Heart if the one we already have believes unto Salvation??? There is no point. And that is why you're wrong. Even the heart which believes is a Gift of God. Ezekiel 36:26 A new heart also will I give you, and a new spirit will I put within you: and...

The gift of God is Salvation by Grace through Faith. None of these are from YOURSELVES. They are the gift of God. How simple is that? Your Greek grammar argument is pure silliness and WISHFUL thinking. Not of YOURSELVES. Just believe scripture.

I love what scripture states. It states, very clearly, that Faith is a gift from God. It states that Salvation is NOT OF OURSELVES. It states that Salvation is NOT OF WORKS. So you have a choice. Believe scripture. Or believe your opinion. Why don't you believe scripture? If faith is...

Except scritpure stating it. This whole section is about Salvation. Read Ephesians 2:8-10 as a whole. It plainly states that those who are saved are those who were elected to service. There is no election to service without Salvation.

Ephesians 2:8 absolutely DOES say that faith is a gift of God. And Ephesians 2:9 and 2:10 back that up. Why don't you just believe scripture.

Is that how scripture works? You take a vote and whatever people vote on, that's the truth? Interesting philosophy. But I don't think you'll get anywhere with it.

Acts 13:48 And when the Gentiles heard this, they were glad, and glorified the word of the Lord: and as many as were ordained to eternal life believed. Ephesians 2:10 For we are his workmanship, created in Christ Jesus unto good works, which God hath before ordained that we should walk in them.

:ROFL::ROFL::ROFL: Try again. With discernment.