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So you at least speak of will and choice. Then let's move into a new nature that only comes after the indwelling of the Spirit. What must come before is the choice to accept Christ. There are zero examples of being reborn happening before initial belief and acceptance. It always came after one...

How do you define depravity? I'm not following. The anti-freewill crowd says that human nature is totally morally corrupt but you just admitted that human can adhere and choose to act morally. That is not by nature. We are not absent minded like the animals. We was created in God's image...

The same as the demons James 2:19 New International Version 19 You believe that there is one God. Good! Even the demons believe that—and shudder. Takes more than just belief in God. It takes accepting Jesus as Lord and Savior. People don't go to Hell and all of sudden say why am I here? Who...

Great! Your quote, So if God is the moral law giver and you see unbelievers making decisions that fall in line with morality then how is this possible if they were completely depraved?

The structure of depravity how I see the scriptures. 1. Total depravity Romans 3:10-17 New International Version 10 As it is written: “There is no one righteous, not even one; 11there is no one who understands; there is no one who seeks God. 2. God's Desire 1 Timothy 2:4 ESV God desires all...

To another point did the prisoner accept Christ before breaking the law or after once in prison?

We are not justified by righteous deeds. Only faith in Christ alone. Where does the moral law come from? Can unbelievers adhere to morality? Can they choose to murder or not murder? Who made the universal law not to murder?

I'd want to know do they hold a Biblical worldview. Many unsaved people believe in God but not Jesus as their Lord.

Sounds like a flawed study.

Yes correct on my end. The permanent indwelling came at Pentecost and the moment one believes.

Romans 2:14-16 English Standard Version 14 For when Gentiles, who do not have the law, by nature do what the law requires, they are a law to themselves, even though they do not have the law. 15 They show that the work of the law is written on their hearts, while their conscience also bears...

Nope. An unbeliever can still do a righteous act in not murdering out of anger but that hardly save them from their debt of sin. Only Christ can do that. Good question though.

I already said the exception was belief in Christ. That is the condition that must be met. I agree, there is a difference between His desired will and what He allows. His desire is to save all but not all are saved. Why? Is He not powerful enough to do so? Couldn't He just make people be...

I didn't say it did. I said the opposite. To be depraved is morally corrupt. Not to be absent of will. To be totally depraved theologically is to be so morally corrupt to reject God. To reject God is still a choice. Except God's Spirit draws people towards a new heart in Christ. You can be...

That is what is strange to me. To erase free will but still blame man for their sin. Doesn't make sense. That would mean that God created the many as evil and few as good. Then of course, did Satan have free will or was he created to reject God? If we fail to harmonize the scriptures of...

But see that is the strange part if Christ on the topic of will sets the will free then when does He do it? Before calling unbelievers to believe or afterwards. It doesn't make sense to call people to believe if they do not have the ability. Now here is where I see how God works in the...

My quote that you bolded, If some are destined for evil then is it really just to judge them on something predetermined? God wishes that all may be saved but of course there is an exception. Unbelief in Christ. But I agree with your whole statement. God's grace is a gift. He has made the...

Well, no matter who does what or what draws what, we preach the gospel and we will tell people to accept Christ. If God rejects them or if man rejects God, it doesn't matter to me, the Great Commission is a mission to reach all people. As to who has the will, we don't have the privilege to...

I agree. I just simply see that God does everything He can to save the sinner and provides many opportunities to change and move them towards belief. He moves first or else we would stay very content in our natural state.

I It is exactly free will that condemns mankind for rejecting Christ. Otherwise it would be the will of God for those to reject Christ. And that is not God's will. But yes, God works in all so that none are with excuse. It is entirely on us for just judgment to choose Christ or reject Him.