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    Romans 3:10-11 "There is none righteous, ...who understands, ...who seeks after God, no, not one;

    I agree, justification, which is a legal term, was Paul's focus. The "none who seeks God" statement is speaking of what man would do without that drawing of the Light. In the OT that drawing was limited, in the NT, it became more universal. While I would not go as far as todays Calvinism does...
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    Romans 3:10-11 "There is none righteous, ...who understands, ...who seeks after God, no, not one;

    God is with "the generation of the righteous", is defined in 3:19-31. Paul argues that this family line (generation) is not defined by physical DNA or perfect law-keeping, but by sharing the same faith as Abraham. When Paul speaks in hyperbole, it's very obvious, like in 1 Corinthians 14:5...
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    Romans 3:10-11 "There is none righteous, ...who understands, ...who seeks after God, no, not one;

    I'm not ignoring you, I just fell behind a bit. I'll read this more thoroughly later tonight.
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    Romans 3:10-11 "There is none righteous, ...who understands, ...who seeks after God, no, not one;

    Some verses to consider. 1 Thessalonians 5:23 Now may the God of peace Himself sanctify you completely; and may your whole spirit, soul, and body be preserved blameless at the coming of our Lord Jesus Christ. The "flesh", as I see it, is a description of all three, "spirit, soul, and body"...
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    Romans 3:10-11 "There is none righteous, ...who understands, ...who seeks after God, no, not one;

    In the NKJV (one of the reasons I like it), is that when the Bible is speaking of the Holy Spirit, it uses a capitol "S", and when it's speaking of our spirit, a small "s". It makes reading easier. As with anything, I'm sure it's not a perfect translation all the time, but for the most part...
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    Acts 2:38-39 Desperately seeking an accurate translation?

    1) Yes, I believe that He meant water baptism. 2) I also think that water baptism should not be considered or read as part of the cause of discipleship. Notice that verse 20 is part of the same thought. Water baptize is part of teaching disciples to "observe all things"...this is a command for...
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    Acts 2:38-39 Desperately seeking an accurate translation?

    Hey B I didn't say that Paul never water baptized anyone, that's a red herring and irrelevant to the question at hand. I quoted 1 Corinthians 1:17 to show that Paul did not put much much emphasis on water baptism, but contrasted water baptism with what he did put emphasis on, preaching the...
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    The Rejection of Obedience

    Romans 3:19-28 Now we know that whatever the law says, it says to those who are under the law, that every mouth may be stopped, and all the world may become guilty before God. Therefore by the deeds of the law no flesh will be justified in His sight, for by the law is the knowledge of sin. But...
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    The Rejection of Obedience

    I gave you the answers you're seeking, if you would just go back to the post that you're replying to. That's a great place to start.
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    Acts 2:38-39 Desperately seeking an accurate translation?

    This is what Paul said. "For Christ did not send me to baptize, but to preach the gospel, not with wisdom of words, lest the cross of Christ should be made of no effect." Paul's baptizing is not him contrasted water baptism from himself, with delegating it to other people. He contrasted...
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    Acts 2:38-39 Desperately seeking an accurate translation?

    The baptism with the Holy Spirit is a placing into by faith, not water. The life is the Spirit indwelling (Romans 8:9-11). The baptism/placing into is speaking of being placed into Christ. We are placed into Christ when we receive the indwelling of the Holy Spirit. that placing into Christ...
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    Acts 2:38-39 Desperately seeking an accurate translation?

    I believe the point is that if water baptism saved, then for Paul, who dedicated his life to bringing the message of salvation, and salvation itself through that message, to say that he was not there to water baptize, would be contradicting. If water baptism had any part in actually receiving...
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    Acts 2:38-39 Desperately seeking an accurate translation?

    Yes! But I will qualify that with......I think there are those out there that believe that if they can just get you into the water, they can save you whether you realize it or not. This is very bad for obvious reasons.
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    Acts 2:38-39 Desperately seeking an accurate translation?

    Hey T A common mistake that people make is reading 'water baptism' into every instance that the Bible used the word 'baptism'. That theological error that will lead to all kinds of false ideas. Romans 6:3-11, 1 Peter 3:21, Colossians 2:9-14, and Galatians 3:26-27 are all speaking of Spirit...
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    Acts 2:38-39 Desperately seeking an accurate translation?

    Hey Tim Water baptism has evolved in meaning, probably due to the fact that it always pointed, and as what it pointed to became more clear, the meaning changed, even from John to the disciples. John's water baptism pointed forward, the disciples water baptism pointed back. Interesting, that...
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    The Rejection of Obedience

    Hey b "The just shall live by faith", I believe that 'faith' in that instance, like Hebrews 12:2, is a metaphor for the life (Acts 3:15) that we receive after we initially believe (Life defined---->Romans 8:9-11, Life received --->Ephesians 1:13-14, Galatians 3:2-3). The question of...
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    Acts 2:38-39 Desperately seeking an accurate translation?

    Hey Bartholomew The original languages in that passage has equal options in translating from them to English. All those options are valid linguistically, but not all of those options are valid theologically. So linguistically, there's nothing that anyone can really hang their hat on to support...
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    Acts 2:38-39 Desperately seeking an accurate translation?

    It's my belief that many of what I would call 50/50 passages, that is, passages used by some to claim that water baptism in combination with faith are required for salvation, can linguistically, equally, be translated two different ways. Acts 2:38-39 for one. The word "eis" can mean "for,"...
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    The Rejection of Obedience

    Forgiveness of sin alone does not make a person righteous. It only removes the guilt from the sin. The Law/justification requires a positive record of perfect obedience. The Law was given for the purpose of showing that it's impossible for us to not sin. The standards of righteousness that we...