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no. Methuseleh died 7 days before the rain began, on the 10th day of the second month - - see Genesis 7.

firmament hasn't fallen? what do you mean? death entered the world in Genesis 3, but Satan fell beforehand.

is everything we make, human? He has created all things, yet calls the things which are seen, temporary, and says that His eternal qualities are seen by those temporal things.

He died on the 4th day, not the 6th. He then rose after 3 days and 3 nights ((in the same year lol)) on the 8th day, the 1st day of the week that followed. Firstfruits, always an 8th day, newness of life. after rest, stillness and quietness. the 4th day is the day He set the stars in the sky...

Leviticus. His calendar has months and days, seasons and years, and is lunar-based. see also: Genesis 1:14 Let there be lights in the firmament of the heavens to divide the day from the night; and let them be for signs and seasons, and for days and years

Shavuot, called Pentecost in Greek, is also part of His calendar, occurring 50 days after Firstfruits. see Leviticus 23

therefore if the argument is that eos-tag celebrates the day of His resurrection, then the argument is that eos-tag is Firstfruits, not Passover. either the argument that eos-tag is a legitimate translation for Pascha should be rejected, that eos-tag is His resurrection must be, or it should be...

He laid down His life on the day of Passover. He took it up again on the day of Firstfruits.

he's become so cryptic, thoughts? i have mine but want to hear yours

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resurrection is firstfruits, substitionary atonement is passover. if this argument goes anywhere it gets there by saying Ishtar means Bikkurim, not Pascha. anything less is ignorance

passover is a type and prophesy of His death. the blood of the Lamb on the door. firstfruits is His resurrection, new life springing from the dust. He died on passover, and rose on firstfruits. this whole thread has been about trying to force a pagan name of a season and goddess onto the wrong...

but instead you think Pascha is linked to Eos, the goddess of the dawn, fertility, love and war, called the morning star, associated with the planet Venus ((do you know anything about Astarte?)) ((audible laughter))

there's the etymologic link, tho. eostar, eostare, astarte, eoshar, ashereh, ishtar. all dawn/fertility goddesses, all names of wife of Baal. ... and zero etymologic link to Pascha, which is the actual word in actual scripture.

has a ring to it - what has it got in its pocketses?

"Pascha" says the Law. passover. not something new, but that which always was, and is now understood.

He went to the cross on Pascha, on a wednesday, that we call good friday now. He rose on Firstfruits, a sunday, not passover. why isn't anyone claiming easter is a legitimate translation for Firstfruits? we're already claiming Luke was wrong to write Pascha, so why not go ahead and claim he...

if it's Passover He fulfilled, then there is no distinction to be made. we only need a distinction if His death had nothing to do with His feasts

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