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It is a reference to the nation of Israel. That is God's people. Btw, the term "elect" is always referenced to service, never salvation. 1. OT God's elect nation, Israel - served God's purpose of bringing forth the seed of Genesis 3:15. 2. God's elect Son, Jesus Christ - served God's purpose...

Romans 11 states that Israel, God's elect nation, is an enemy of the gospel. 26 And so all Israel shall be saved: as it is written, There shall come out of Sion the Deliverer, and shall turn away ungodliness from Jacob: 27 For this is my covenant unto them, when I shall take away their sins. 28...

The world of the so called elect, right?

Exactly! What did you say, not what scripture states.

Not the case in the churches I have attended throughout my life. The other sheep are found in Matthew 25. Can you post scripture where the Apostle Paul, you know, the apostle to the Gentiles, refer to them as sheep? I can be persuaded through scripture, not debates without scripture.

It’s nowhere in scripture. Made up by a Catholic long ago. Same guy who baptized babies and believed God is the author of sin.

But you not when it fits a certain theology, right? For all have sinned. Is this just Calvin’s elect? He is the saviour of all men. Well, in this case, all is only Calvin’s elect. Do you see hoe dumb this is? No one reading the Bible honestly would come up with this. One has to be indoctrinated...

They follow a man who claimed God is the author of sin.

Exodus 32 8 They have turned aside quickly out of the way which I commanded them: they have made them a molten calf, and have worshipped it, and have sacrificed thereunto, and said, These be thy gods, O Israel, which have brought thee up out of the land of Egypt. 9 And the Lord said unto Moses...

Yep, no mention of some elect group, rather, those who would believe in the apostles preaching about Jesus.

I should've said, speaking only of his disciples, and one was lost, the son of perdition.

verse 2 is speaking of his disciples as well. Same of verse 6, his disciples as he goes onto praying for them. 6 I have manifested thy name unto the men which thou gavest me out of the world: thine they were, and thou gavest them me; and they have kept thy word.

So, all kings and all who are in authority. It's not good to add to scripture to fit your theology. Change your theology to align with scripture.

How did God lose those who he chose from the foundation of the world? Why would he have to seek and save them? They're already saved. smh

Jesus was praying for his disciples and for those that would believe on him through his disciples.

Who is the word "all" pointing to in this passage? 1 Timothy 2: 1 I exhort therefore, that, first of all, supplications, prayers, intercessions, and giving of thanks, be made for all men; 2 For kings, and for all that are in authority; that we may lead a quiet and peaceable life in all...

That which was lost...who was lost? How can someone who was saved and chosen from the foundation of the world be lost? Are you saying God lost them? Is not ever sinner lost?

At that time, Jesus was praying for his disciples.

All is only convenient to prove Calvinism in certain passages, but in other usages, let’s say it means something else.

Only if you view it from Calvin’s point of view. Is God a failure who created man good and in his image, and that same man disobeyed him in return? Is God a failure who repented that he had made man on the earth and destroyed all but eight?