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  1. peacefulbeliever

    Did Jesus Have The Human Sinful Nature?

    #1 - the first Adam failed - he was tempted - REALLY tempted - but he gave in to the temptation - sin and death entered #2 - the second Adam conquered sin and death - he was tempted - REALLY tempted, i.e. after 40 days of fasting Jesus was HUNGRY - the first temptation was to turn stones into...
  2. peacefulbeliever

    Did Jesus Have The Human Sinful Nature?

    If the temptations were futile, why waste time tempting him? The context of the temptation is to show us that we too can withstand temptation by the very word of God. There is no temptation that takes you but that which is common to man; but God is faithful who will not suffer you to be...
  3. peacefulbeliever

    Did Jesus Have The Human Sinful Nature?

    Again, my Jesus is born of God. My Jesus has God as his Father and Mary as his mother. My Jesus is a descendant of David via the body of Mary but the "seed" of God therefore NO fallen human nature. My Jesus was/is perfect in every way, no flaws whatsoever. My Jesus was the acceptable...
  4. peacefulbeliever

    Did Jesus Have The Human Sinful Nature?

    Excuse me . . . Yes, the Bible says it was the seed of the woman. Logically, everyone knows that women do not carry the seed so the seed had to come from somewhere - she had never been with a man - so again, logically, the seed was miraculously placed inside Mary to unite with her egg. God...
  5. peacefulbeliever

    Did Jesus Have The Human Sinful Nature?

    Yea, I see that you have picked up using DB's interpretations - the ones he/she chooses to use. Hebrews 2:14 says exactly what he partook of - flesh and blood.
  6. peacefulbeliever

    Did Jesus Have The Human Sinful Nature?

    It's not MY IDEA . . . NOTHING I have said is MY IDEA . . . it is Biblical.
  7. peacefulbeliever

    Did Jesus Have The Human Sinful Nature?

    BUT God DID miraculously [supernaturally] place the "seed" in Mary to unite with her egg resulting in the conception of the Son of God - the way of a man and woman, the way of conception didn't change just because God had to provide Mary's body with the "seed".
  8. peacefulbeliever

    Did Jesus Have The Human Sinful Nature?

    God put a perfect seed in the womb of Mary so that Jesus would be born without the sin nature that every other human being inherited from the First Adam. Therefore, Jesus is the only-begotten Son of God (John 3:16) and the Son of Man (John 5:27). Took part of flesh and blood that is the only...
  9. peacefulbeliever

    Did Jesus Have The Human Sinful Nature?

    Why would conception for Mary be any different that in other women? It takes seed and it takes an egg then conception. Mary had the egg - she was the vessel for God to place the "seed" and Jesus was conceived.
  10. peacefulbeliever

    Did Jesus Have The Human Sinful Nature?

    That's the same thing as saying God had a sinful human nature . . . LOL! REALLY????
  11. peacefulbeliever

    Did Jesus Have The Human Sinful Nature?

    Yes, God said He would put enmity between thee and the woman, and between thy seed and "her seed". . . . as has been said repeatedly women do not carry seed . . . therefore, the "seed" was placed in Mary miraculously by THE Holy Spirit . . . the "seed" came from God.
  12. peacefulbeliever

    Did Jesus Have The Human Sinful Nature?

    My Jesus has God as his Father - the "seed" comes from the father - that is biology 101. A woman does not carry "seed" which in humans comes from the male - but Jesus was miraculously conceived via the Holy Spirit. If Jesus has a "human sinful nature", it would have to come from the "seed" ...
  13. peacefulbeliever

    Did Jesus Have The Human Sinful Nature?

    Women do not carry the "seed" - they carry the "egg". So the term "her seed" in Genesis 3:15 and "the Holy Spirit will come on you, and the power of the Most High will overshadow you." is the "seed" being miraculously placed in her by God. "Since the children have flesh and blood, he too...
  14. peacefulbeliever

    Did Jesus Have The Human Sinful Nature?

    Mary was not "tainted" - she was a virgin - no man had KNOWN her - that is why she was chosen. Jesus took part of "flesh and blood" . . . that is what he took part of. If he had "tainted" human sinful nature - he could not have been our perfect sacrifice - the Lamb of God.
  15. peacefulbeliever

    Did Jesus Have The Human Sinful Nature?

    Yea, I can't understand why so many do not understand the virgin birth either!! What people are saying is that God miraculously put "tainted" seed into Mary making Jesus the "imperfect" lamb of God - How can that be???? Jesus was the second Adam - the first Adam made the choice to sin and...
  16. peacefulbeliever

    Did Jesus Have The Human Sinful Nature?

    "in a body like the bodies we sinners have" . . . . partook of flesh and blood . . . (Hebrews 2:14) likeness, i.e. resemblance (inasmuch as that appears in an image or figure) I disagree total with the translation used in the GW. Not all translations are GOOD translations.
  17. peacefulbeliever

    Did Jesus Have The Human Sinful Nature?

    This is how biology works: The "seed" (sperm of the male) meets with an "egg" (of the female) and is fertilized in the womb which results in a child. Genesis 3:15 And I will put enmity between thee and the woman, and between thy seed and her seed; . . . Now the woman does not carry the seed...
  18. peacefulbeliever

    Did Jesus Have The Human Sinful Nature?

    My point is you don't respond to the points I make. You had already mentioned Romans 7:9-11 and I said that it doesn't say what you say it says - Even though we are born with a sin nature we are spiritually alive until we commit our first sin at the age of accountability - nor does it say -...
  19. peacefulbeliever

    Did Jesus Have The Human Sinful Nature?

    I see that you just like to hear yourself talk!!! You do not respond to anything anyone quotes to you but like to keep reiterating what you believe something is saying which is NOT carrying on a discussion nor conversation of any kind. We are NOT spiritually alive until we believe in Jesus...