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  1. peacefulbeliever

    Did Jesus Have The Human Sinful Nature?

    So we are not sinners until we commit sin? (which I don't read in Rom. 7:9-11) When we were born (physically), we each inherited the sin nature of our “father” Adam, and thus were born dead in sin (Eph. 2:1, 5). Because of this “death” nature in us, our physical lives are doomed to end in...
  2. peacefulbeliever

    Did Jesus Have The Human Sinful Nature?

    Jesus came through the "seed of the woman". Women do not carry "seed", men do. Mary was a virgin - the "seed of the woman" was impregnated via the Holy Spirit - not a MAN. Therefore, Jesus was pure, spotless, without blemish, the Lamb of God. This is what Hebrews 2:17 - "as the children are...
  3. peacefulbeliever

    Did Jesus Have The Human Sinful Nature?

    For the life of the flesh is in the blood . . . When looking at the bloodline in a family, if they do not have a son, the blood line dies, e.g. no son to carry on the family name. So, the son carries the bloodline not the daughter. Jesus is said to be the "Son of David" but he did not...
  4. peacefulbeliever

    Did Jesus Have The Human Sinful Nature?

    Satan didn't have a "nature to sin" - the temptation to be like God and he sinned . . . Adam didn't have a "nature to sin" - the temptation "ye shall not truly die" and he sinned . . . Jesus didn't have a "nature to sin" was tempted in all points (Hebrews 4:15) just as we are tempted yet he...
  5. peacefulbeliever

    Did Jesus Have The Human Sinful Nature?

    Adam was created from the dust of the ground - no male "seed" was passed to him. Just as no male "seed" was attributed to Jesus. God placed the "perfect seed" in the womb of Mary so that Jesus would be born without the sin nature of every other human since the fall of Adam. Jesus was the...
  6. peacefulbeliever

    Did Jesus Have The Human Sinful Nature?

    Did Jesus have the human sinful nature? No, he did not. Just as Adam did not have the "human sinful nature" UNTIL he sinned, e.g. disobedience . . . Jesus did not have the "human sinful nature" . . . nor did he acquire the "human sinful nature" . . . because he remained without sin, e.g...
  7. peacefulbeliever

    Speaking in tongues

    The word "unknown" has been added to the text . . . as shown by "italics". Why is it that MY understanding is not straight but YOURS is? "Since both a Christian church and individual Christians are likened to a building or temple in which God or the Holy Spirit dwells, the erection of which...
  8. peacefulbeliever

    Speaking in tongues

    Where is one warned "against self edification"? Plainly states that one that speaks in a tongue edifies himself - UNLESS he interpret that the church may receive edifying. 1 Cor. 14:4,5
  9. peacefulbeliever

    Speaking in tongues

    As much as things have been explained throughout this thread, I guess you'll have to ask God that question - He is the one that said "He that speaks in a tongue edifies himself but he that prophesies edifies the church. I would that you all speak with tongues, but rather that you prophesied...
  10. peacefulbeliever

    Speaking in tongues

    Yes, anyone can learn a language . . . unfortunately, tongues in the context of its usages is NOT a learned language. Also in the context of the usage of "tongues", it is unique to Christianity because it is given by the Spirit via the gift of holy spirit - ONLY given to those who believe in...
  11. peacefulbeliever

    Speaking in tongues

    Even if Mark 16:9-20 is authentic . . . it is a promise to believers of what is to come - it is not a record of believers speaking in tongues . . . the FIRST record of people receiving the gift of holy spirit and manifesting speaking in tongues is in Acts.
  12. peacefulbeliever

    Speaking in tongues

    LOL! Never said Spirit is "tongue"! The terms "praying in the holy spirit" (Jude 20); e.g. "praying in the spirit", "praying in a tongue" (1 Cor.14:14), "pray with the spirit" (1 Cor. 14:15) - is speaking in tongues.
  13. peacefulbeliever

    Speaking in tongues

    Jude 4-16 is talking about unbelievers and ends in this manner: v17 to believers in contrast to what was said before: BUT, beloved, remember you the words which were spoken before of the apostles of our Lord Jesus Christ; How that they told you there should be mockers in the last time, who...
  14. peacefulbeliever

    Speaking in tongues

    God does want all Christians to speak in tongues - by revelation Paul wrote "I would that you all speak in tongues" - God gave Paul those words to write - therefore it is God saying, "i would that you all speak in tongues" - I would meaning I "want", I "desire", I "wish" . . . Most do not speak...
  15. peacefulbeliever

    Speaking in tongues

    I may not MENTALLY understand what I am saying but God knows what I am saying and my spirit is edified so it is fruitful for me - so I will do both - I pray with my spirit but I will also pray with my understanding.
  16. peacefulbeliever

    Speaking in tongues

    Well, that's good but if you keep things in context . . . prophets - those prophesying - have control over when they prophesy in the church. Two or three prophets should speak, and the others should weigh carefully what is said. And if a revelation comes to someone who is sitting down, the...
  17. peacefulbeliever

    Speaking in tongues

    This is prophecy - it is not scripture - but prophecy directly effecting Paul. After we had been there a number of days, a prophet named Agabus came down from Judea. Coming over to us, he took Paul's belt, tied his own hands and feet with it and said, The Holy Spirit says, In this way the...
  18. peacefulbeliever

    Speaking in tongues

    Prophecy in regard to the manifestation of the Spirit is NOT new revelation or scripture . . . to prophesy when manifesting the gift of holy spirit is speaking words of edification to the church. (14:4)
  19. peacefulbeliever

    Speaking in tongues

    LOL! Speaking in tongues is not baby talk! It is your spirit conversing with God who is Spirit. That new creation, the divine nature, that you were given when you were born again - conversing with God. (1 Cor. 14:2)