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  1. peacefulbeliever

    The Heresy of Annihilationism

    Souls and spirits are very much alive . . . God breathed into Adam and he became a living soul . . . it's seems that life is breath - as long as one breathes he is a body and soul . . . each piece cannot of its own self live apart. The spirit we have is from God upon our new birth . . the...
  2. peacefulbeliever

    The Heresy of Annihilationism

    Ever wonder why Jesus uses the metaphor "sleep" for "death"? When you are asleep you are not aware of anything going on - sleep = a condition of body and mind such as that which typically recurs for several hours every night, in which the nervous system is relatively inactive, the eyes closed...
  3. peacefulbeliever

    The cultic origins of Annihilationism

    Geez . . . I said I was sorry . . . I just didn't see it . . . o_O
  4. peacefulbeliever

    The cultic origins of Annihilationism

    What is it that God is forgetting? What is hid from his eyes? . . . That he who blesses himself in the earth shall bless himself in the God of truth; and he that swears in the earth shall swear by the God of truth; WHY- because the former troubles are forgotten, and because they - THEY refers...
  5. peacefulbeliever

    The cultic origins of Annihilationism

    I agree that there is a comparison between the lost and the saved BUT God specifically says: For behold, I create new heavens and a new earth; and the former shall not be remembered or come to mind . . . the former what? because the former troubles are forgotten. You say it is the lost that are...
  6. peacefulbeliever

    The cultic origins of Annihilationism

    Oh sorry, I didn't see where he said anything about our hearing those crying from "hell". . . . must have missed that. But my question still stands: In Revelation 21:4 - after all the judgments, there will be no more sorrow, crying or pain. How can saved believers possibly enjoy the riches...
  7. peacefulbeliever

    The cultic origins of Annihilationism

    In the context - it clearly says - former troubles will be forgotten . . . because the former troubles are forgotten, and because they are hid from mine eyes, For, behold, I create new heavens and a new earth: and the former shall not be remembered nor come into mind. If something is...
  8. peacefulbeliever

    The cultic origins of Annihilationism

    Jesus did not intend to contradict the entire OT and teach survival after death. The primary intent was to show that the Pharisees were so evil, being covetous and justifying themselves before men instead of before God, that even if someone rose from the dead, they wouldn't even listen. The...
  9. peacefulbeliever

    The cultic origins of Annihilationism

    What former things are forgotten? The former troubles are forgotten . . . . (v16) The memory of them - those that are dead . . . not our memory of those that have died - I still remember my mother but she has been dead for 43 years the former things have passed away - again our former...
  10. peacefulbeliever

    The cultic origins of Annihilationism

    What does it matter? It matters to have truth . . . . Again - the OT is replete with scripture concerning death - NT has man asleep (metaphorically used for death; yes, another figure of speech!) until Christ returns . . . . no in between - dead in the grave - raised to eternal life when Christ...
  11. peacefulbeliever

    The cultic origins of Annihilationism

    Are there not legitimate figures of speech used in language/literature? Why would it be so different for God when having holy men pen the word of God to not use figures of speech? There are over 200 figures of speech throughout the written word and when a figure is not discerned when used - we...
  12. peacefulbeliever

    The cultic origins of Annihilationism

    For in death there is no remembrance of thee: In the grave who shall give thee thanks? Psalm 6:5 - in the grave there's not even any remembrance of God. . . . in the grave who will give God thanks - if we immediately go to heaven wouldn't we be giving God thanks? What profit is there in my...
  13. peacefulbeliever

    The cultic origins of Annihilationism

    Yep, God breathed into man and man became a living soul - when that breath leaves a man he becomes a dead soul (that breath life is not eternal) . . . Adam died spiritually - he lost that spirit connection with God when he sinned - the only way man can be quickened is through faith in Jesus...
  14. peacefulbeliever

    The cultic origins of Annihilationism

    If those OT saints in Matthew 27:52,53 were risen to eternal life - then Jesus wouldn't be the firstfruits. . . But now is Christ risen from the dead, and become the firstfruits of them that slept. These two verses - not saying it didn't happen - just saying Matthew is the only one who recorded...
  15. peacefulbeliever

    The cultic origins of Annihilationism

    Since the Bible clearly states that in death there is no consciousness - this story has to be figurative or you have a BIG contradiction in scripture. The NT should line up with what the OT says about death. The story of the rich man and Lazarus starts off in the very similar way of the...
  16. peacefulbeliever

    The cultic origins of Annihilationism

    Soul [breath life], or physical life, pertains to literal, physical death, and "holy spirit" or everlasting life, pertains to the figurative usage of death. In the absence of soul [breath life], the body is truly and literally dead. In the absence of holy spirit, the person is figuratively, or...
  17. peacefulbeliever

    The cultic origins of Annihilationism

    Satan said: You shall not surely die but scripture makes clear who was telling the truth - Wherefore, as by one man [Adam] sin entered into the world, and death by sin; and so death passed upon all men, for that all have sinned. Death, both spiritual and physical, was the result of man's...
  18. peacefulbeliever

    The cultic origins of Annihilationism

    No offence but "dead" in 1 Peter 1:21 and "dead" in Revelation 20:13 are both nekros . . . and in both context meant DEAD as in one that breathed his last . . . neither usage in the context of these verses mean spiritually dead, e.g. destitute of a life that recognizes and is devoted to God...
  19. peacefulbeliever

    Speaking in tongues

    Please note: And when the day of Pentecost was fully come, THEY were all with one accord in one place . . . . Then from the previous verse we note who the THEY are - Acts 1:26 Then THEY (the eleven) cast lots, and teh lot fell to Matthias; so he was added to the eleven apostles.
  20. peacefulbeliever

    Are Roman Catholics Christians

    A man is not saved according to his "denomination" but a man is saved if he has confessed Jesus as Lord and believes in his heart that God raised him from the dead.