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  1. peacefulbeliever

    Baptism and holy spirit

    Simply put . . . It builds you up spiritually (edifies you). It's okay if you don't understand what you are saying - God knows exactly what you are saying . . . It's your spirit speaking directly to God, who is Spirit.
  2. peacefulbeliever

    Baptism and holy spirit

    "the perfect of verse 10 is the completed word of God the bible". I just don't see it because the "perfect", we will see "face to face" . . . don't see the scripture "face to face". Now we know in part but then (when that which is perfect is come) we will know even as we are known. Sounds a...
  3. peacefulbeliever

    Baptism and holy spirit

    Yes, they had the witness of the Apostles . . . Amen!
  4. peacefulbeliever

    Baptism and holy spirit

    Yes, so I can see that it could be hyperbolic in nature but it doesn't negate the fact that when one speaks in tongues they are "speaking the tongues of men or of angels". The context of verses is emphasizing that if I do all these things, have all these things energized by God but operate them...
  5. peacefulbeliever

    Baptism and holy spirit

    Well, in all actuality, it wouldn't be humans speaking the language of angels, per se, but God energizing man to speak the language of angels. But again, if not done in love - worthless nothing!
  6. peacefulbeliever

    Baptism and holy spirit

    Thank you shrume for posting the verse . . . I couldn't find it!!!
  7. peacefulbeliever

    Baptism and holy spirit

    Thank you but I know what an hyperbole is . . . :giggle:
  8. peacefulbeliever

    Baptism and holy spirit

    I entered in the phrase "angel from heaven preaches a different gospel" into Biblegateway and there were 0 usages of that phrase - that's why I asked you if 2 Cor. 11:4 was the verse you were speaking about. If the verse you are quoting does not exist - how can you compare the two? Are you...
  9. peacefulbeliever

    Baptism and holy spirit

    The "knowledge" spoken of in 1 Cor. 13:8 has to do with another one of the manifestations of the Spirit listed in 1 Cor. 12:8-10 - message of knowledge . . . as are the other two things listed - prophecies, tongues - if we are to keep all things in context.
  10. peacefulbeliever

    Baptism and holy spirit

    hyperbole - exaggerated statements or claims not to be taken literally - Why should we take this statement, "Though I speak with the tongues of men and of angels, and have not charity (love), I am become as sounding brass, or a tinkling cymbal" - as being an hyperbole? Is this the verse you...
  11. peacefulbeliever

    Baptism and holy spirit

    What do we do with - "BUT the manifestation of the Spirit is given to all for the common good." . . . Manifestation is NOT the same as a gift. Gifts are given individually - those gifts listed in Romans 12:6-8 are the "distributions" in 1 Cor. 12:4,5 as are the gift ministries listed in...
  12. peacefulbeliever

    Baptism and holy spirit

    New knowledge has ceased because God is no longer bringing any new revelations???? God tells me stuff all the time - driving in my car, he may direct me in another direction to avoid an accident. He lets me know what I should pray for in a given situation in a person's life. He tells me lots...
  13. peacefulbeliever

    Baptism and holy spirit

    1 Cor. 12:13 shows us that all Christians have been baptized in one spirit. The only way every Christian is when they confess Jesus as Lord and believe God raised him from the dead - they are saved, i.e. made whole, born again of the Spirit. They are synonymous terms. Repent and be baptized...
  14. peacefulbeliever

    Baptism and holy spirit

    In context . . . I see that if the spiritual matters spoken of in 1 Cor. 12 are not operated in love; they are nothing. Perfection will not come in a believer until Christ returns and we will shall see him as he is for we shall be like him. The Corinthians were letting pride interfere with...
  15. peacefulbeliever

    Baptism and holy spirit

    Just wondering - after saying all of the above - are you saying that all 4 instances listed above are the same and received at the time one believes in Jesus Christ? "Baptized in holy spirit" = "receiving" the holy spirit = equals "sealed" with the holy spirit = "filled" with holy spirit . . ...
  16. peacefulbeliever

    Baptism and holy spirit

    Tongues are a sign to those who believe not - What does it show them? If done correctly (v27,28) and not all at once (v23,24) - it shows them that the Spirit of God and the Spirit of Christ dwell in a believer via the gift of holy spirit. There are it, it may be, so many kinds of voices in...
  17. peacefulbeliever

    Baptism and holy spirit

    Again, tongues is not a "gift". Every believer has the ability to operate the nine manifestations of the spirit. It is God who energizes the believer . . . all the gifts, the power, and the manifestations are given and energized by God. NO believer is better than any other believer. Yes, all...
  18. peacefulbeliever

    SHHHHH . . . . . .Peace . . . Listen . . .

    I wanted to post this here . . . I know it is music but I wanted it for this Forum . . . https://youtu.be/SS5S8Unvm48
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    Changing avatar

    I a computer illiterate . . . Can someone please tell me how to change my avatar? Thanks.
  20. peacefulbeliever

    October - Breast Cancer Awareness

    This is breast cancer awareness month. Here is a song for those battling now and for survivors everywhere. Overcomer by Mandisa with Lyrics - YouTube I am a breast cancer survivor - 11 years - Praise God!