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For anyone following this thread, Jesus Himself warned that the New Covenant cannot be poured into Old Covenant wineskins (Matt 9:16–17), yet that is exactly how SabbathBlessing has framed his entire reply. Jesus said the Law & the Prophets ended with John the Baptist (Lk 16:16), marking a...

You’re not clarifying Paul, you're contradicting him. The moment you say obedience is required for eternal salvation, you've detonated the very thing Paul is protecting in Ephesians 2:8–9. Paul doesn't merely say works don't start salvation, he says salvation is ""not of yourselves"" & NOT OF...

Romans 6:3 Misused Water-Baptism Text Detected & Here’s What the Passage Actually Teaches Romans 6:3 does not be refer to water baptism, the entire chapter describes a Spirit-wrought union with Christ that water cannot accomplish. The word water appears ZERO times in the chapter & Paul never...

Often I encounter this claim that Christ saves by faith, but then the believer must perform, maintain & preserve what God has already declared finished. Scripture presents Christ, not the believer, as the One who ""saves to the uttermost"" (Heb 7:25). When we shift the weight of salvation back...

Often I encounter the claim that Christ saves by faith, but then the believer must perform, maintain & preserve what God has already declared finished. Scripture presents Christ, not the believer, as the One who ""saves to the uttermost"" (Heb 7:25). When we shift the weight of salvation back...

Personal experiences can't overturn the pattern Jesus Himself establishes in Scripture. The issue isn't what happened in a Pentecostal service later. The issue is what the New Testament says happens at conversion. Jesus taught that the Holy Spirit convicts the world of one sin, UNBELIEF (Jn...

Yes, that's exactly right. Paul tells the Corinthians that even in their carnality, immaturity & messiness, they were already ""washed - sanctified & justified"" (1 Cor 6:11). That's positional truth, rooted in Christ's finished work, not in their level of spiritual growth. Sanctification has...

I disagree Sin absolutely carries consequences in a believers life. Broken relationships, sickness, loss of joy, protection hedges removed etc. But none of those consequences include the loss of salvation. Scripture is clear that the only unforgivable sin is lifelong unbelief, dying without...

Paul uses IN CHRIST to describe eternal life (Rom 6:23), no condemnation (Rom 8:1), new creation (2 Cor 5:17), redemption (Eph 1:7), justification (Gal 2:17), & every spiritual blessing (Eph 1:3). None of those are descriptions of fluctuating moral behavior. They're identity realities grounded...

Every passage you quoted fits the same biblical pattern: faith is the means of receiving eternal life & obedience is the evidence that faith is real. Jn 3:36 uses ""believe"" & ""obey"" as parallel ideas because the ""obedience"" in view is the obedience of believing the Son (Jn 6:29 & Rom...

The issue isn't permanence, it's identity. ""Sanctified in Christ Jesus"" places the Corinthians inside Paul' entire ""in Christ" framework, which is always positional, always identity based & never a description of fluctuating moral behavior. Paul's ""in Christ"" statements function the same...

Acts 2 doesn't contradict anything I said, it confirms it. The 120 weren't receiving a post salvation upgrade. They were the 1st group ever baptized with the Holy Spirit, inaugurating the New Covenant just as Jesus promised (Acts 1:5). That's the Jewish entry event. The 3000 saved later that...

The problem here is that you're importing OSAS into a discussion that's actually about the NT's categories, not anyone's system. You're reacting to the word positional because you associate it with OSAS & that association is what's blocking you from seeing the plain lexical & grammatical data...

Studier, I sent you this direct C & P in post 3000 Topical Lexicon Meaning and Concept Strong’s Greek 38 (ἁγιασμός) speaks of sanctification—a state of consecration brought about by God that issues in practical holiness of life. It embraces both the decisive setting-apart that occurs at...

Positional sanctification isn't a Reformed invention. It's simply the NT’s past tense sanctification category. Paul uses both the aorist (1 Cor 6:11) & the perfect tense (1 Cor 1:2) to describe a completed identity with ongoing results. That's grammar, not denominational bias. 1 Corinthians...

You just proved my point without realizing it. You dumped every verse in the Bible except the one where Jesus actually defines the will of the Father. None of your citations override Christ's own words. In Matthew 7:21, Jesus says entrance into the kingdom depends on doing the Father's will &...

SANCTIFICATION - https://biblehub.com/greek/38.htm Lexical Summary hagiasmos: Sanctification, holiness, consecration HELPS Word-studies Cognate: 38 hagiasmós (a masculine noun derived from 40 /hágios, "holy") – sanctification (the process of advancing in holiness); use of the believer being...

Not so much: SANCTIFICATION - https://biblehub.com/greek/38.htm Lexical Summary hagiasmos: Sanctification, holiness, consecration HELPS Word-studies Cognate: 38 hagiasmós (a masculine noun derived from 40 /hágios, "holy") – sanctification (the process of advancing in holiness); use of the...

I'll bet God's equally as impressed with your abject inability to read scripture. WILL OF THE FATHER: Matt 7:21 Jesus said; Not every one that saith unto me, Lord, Lord, shall enter into the kingdom of heaven; """"but he that doeth the will of my Father"""" which is in heaven. (NOTE...

Oy vey, Justification is God’s once‑for‑all verdict grounded in calling on the Lord for forgiveness & placing faith in His Death & resurrection. When the Lord accepts that call & He alone knows the true heart (Rev 2:23, Jn 2:24-25, Matt 15:18) He baptizes the believer with the Holy Spirit. At...