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  1. TMS

    looking for help reconciling the Sabbath with common observation?

    The Seventh day Adventists church did not exist before 1844.. They are a church that grew out of the 1844 disappointment. The church wasn't officially founded until the 1860's Jesus is God. He is the great I AM. Yes I do believe Jesus is Michael. But let's not get side tracked, this is...
  2. TMS

    looking for help reconciling the Sabbath with common observation?

    The Bible does not support this change and God said the 7th day is the sabbath. History teachers that want to support Sunday worship, say the early church referring to the first 100 years... but do an honest search and study history from truthful sources and you will find that the Christians...
  3. TMS

    looking for help reconciling the Sabbath with common observation?

    I agree meet everyday we can. Everyday is a good day to praise God. But only The Seventh Day was made HOLY, and SANCTIFIED.
  4. TMS

    looking for help reconciling the Sabbath with common observation?

    Rest Exo 20:8-11 8 Remember the sabbath day, to keep it holy. Keep it holy.. coversation and actions.. 9 Six days shalt thou labour, and do all thy work: 10 But the seventh day is the sabbath of the LORD thy God: in it thou shalt not do any work, thou, nor thy son, nor thy daughter, thy...
  5. TMS

    looking for help reconciling the Sabbath with common observation?

    Mar 2:27-28 27 And he said unto them, The sabbath was made for man, and not man for the sabbath: 28 Therefore the Son of man is Lord also of the sabbath. Made for man.. Gen 2:2-3 2 And on the seventh day God ended his work which he had made; and he rested on the seventh day from all his work...
  6. TMS

    looking for help reconciling the Sabbath with common observation?

    I agree that there were a lot of man made decrees and religious laws that were being pushed on the people.. Paul was helping them to seperate these laws from the laws that are moral and unchanging. Do you believe in offering blood from lambs today?
  7. TMS

    looking for help reconciling the Sabbath with common observation?

    If you read the verses Paul is quoting it is different laws You are saying all the laws in the old covenant are removed. Paul was referring to the laws in the old testament. One set are moral laws that do not change. One set are cerimonial laws that pointed to Christ... The cerimonial...
  8. TMS

    looking for help reconciling the Sabbath with common observation?

    I agree with most of what you are saying... But do you believe that the earthly feasts set in place in the days of Moses are moral or cerimonial laws? Do you believe.... The seven ancient Jewish feasts serve as a prophetic shadow of the work of Christ, where each type meets its perfect...
  9. TMS

    looking for help reconciling the Sabbath with common observation?

    Rom 5:13-14 13 (For until the law sin was in the world: but sin is not imputed when there is no law. 14 Nevertheless death reigned from Adam to Moses, even over them that had not sinned after the similitude of Adam's transgression, who is the figure of him that was to come. Sin was in the...
  10. TMS

    looking for help reconciling the Sabbath with common observation?

    We will see... what the future brings. Ecc 12:13 Let us hear the conclusion of the whole matter: Fear God, and keep his commandments: for this is the whole duty of man.
  11. TMS

    looking for help reconciling the Sabbath with common observation?

    You say 9 of the 10 are moral laws but use col 2 to prove the sabbath was a shadow law. Col 2 is specific about which laws were nailed to the cross. Eph 2:15 Having abolished in his flesh the enmity, even the law of commandments contained in ordinances; for to make in himself of twain one...
  12. TMS

    looking for help reconciling the Sabbath with common observation?

    God made the sabbath for man and God made it for for before sin Before sin. Murder was wrong. Before sin. Taking God's name in vain was wrong. Before sin Lying was wrong. If God made the sabbath holy and sanctified it for man before sin... it was sinful to not keep it holy and not...
  13. TMS

    looking for help reconciling the Sabbath with common observation?

    Paul did keep the Torah and the law. But there is a distinction between the shadow laws and the laws that Paul kept. Paul said. Col 2:14 Blotting out the handwriting of ordinances that was against us, which was contrary to us, and took it out of the way, nailing it to his cross; Eph 2:15...
  14. TMS

    looking for help reconciling the Sabbath with common observation?

    Which law? The mark of the beast.... this is a law enforced by the government to rest on Sunday. To have a sabbath rest on Sunday. Church and State will combine to make rules about how we keep the sabbath. God said the 7th day is the sabbath Man changed the day to the first day. Step by...
  15. TMS

    looking for help reconciling the Sabbath with common observation?

    I'm saying the 10 commandments are universal. Which human being are able to .... transgress any of the 10 laws and it is not sinful. Can any human covet or take God's name in vain and not be sinning. Can anyone murder or steal or lie and not be sinning. These 10 laws apply to everyone
  16. TMS

    looking for help reconciling the Sabbath with common observation?

    Do you believe that ... Exo 20:13-16 13 Thou shalt not kill. 14 Thou shalt not commit adultery. 15 Thou shalt not steal. 16 Thou shalt not bear false witness against thy neighbour. ....These laws are part of the new covenant? Just because they were part of the Old does not mean they are not...
  17. TMS

    looking for help reconciling the Sabbath with common observation?

    The final prophecies in Revelation involve more then just a mark of the beast. When God stands up and the cup is full then the end will come. God will hold back the final events until He let's things go. Dan 12:1 And at that time shall Michael stand up, the great prince which standeth for...
  18. TMS

    looking for help reconciling the Sabbath with common observation?

    How do you know which Spirit is leading you...? The holy Spirit of God Or the spirit of deception of Satan. The law is Spiritual And when you obey the law internally you are being lead by the Spirit of God. 2Ti 3:16 All scripture is given by inspiration of God, and is profitable for...
  19. TMS

    looking for help reconciling the Sabbath with common observation?

    Not Israel's laws but God's laws. The moral laws are universal Jesus said i did not come to destroy the law... in Jesus's day which law was He referring to. There was no new Testament written when Jesus said it. Mat 5:17-18 17 Think not that I am come to destroy the law, or the...
  20. TMS

    looking for help reconciling the Sabbath with common observation?

    What are the Commandments of God, That we should obey?