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  1. TMS

    looking for help reconciling the Sabbath with common observation?

    Regardless of denomination and traditional teachings..... Let's see. One group of people mostly SDAs say that law will slowly be placed on people to observe Sunday as a day of rest. They have been predicting this for many years but have never set a day or date. They believe that the world...
  2. TMS

    looking for help reconciling the Sabbath with common observation?

    A scripture that does support sabbath keeping after the resurrection... Act 13:42-44 42 And when the Jews were gone out of the synagogue, the Gentiles besought that these words might be preached to them the next sabbath. ..... 44 And the next sabbath day came almost the whole city together to...
  3. TMS

    looking for help reconciling the Sabbath with common observation?

    That's what I say... big difference between the laws... The law of ceremonies that Moses gave that were shadow laws pointing forward to Christ's coming are nailed to the cross. I don't live under these laws. But Jesus said ... Mat 19:17-18 17 And he said unto him, Why callest thou me...
  4. TMS

    looking for help reconciling the Sabbath with common observation?

    Why .... The Spirit and the moral law do not controdict each other. The Holy Spirit and the character of God are one. To say you follow the Spirit of God and wilfully transgress the law is a contradiction.. Rom 8:1-4 1 There is therefore now no condemnation to them which are in Christ...
  5. TMS

    looking for help reconciling the Sabbath with common observation?

    Joh 14:15 If ye love me, keep my commandments.
  6. TMS

    looking for help reconciling the Sabbath with common observation?

    Please give me verses to prove that Christ did not uphold and promote the 10 commandments.. The law of Moses is different to God's law. Joh 15:10 If ye keep my commandments, ye shall abide in my love; even as I have kept my Father's commandments, and abide in his love. Psa 19:7 KJV The law...
  7. TMS

    looking for help reconciling the Sabbath with common observation?

    Abiding in Christ is not being disputed. We all agree... Joh 14:6 Jesus saith unto him, I am the way, the truth, and the life: no man cometh unto the Father, but by me. But... Rom 3:31 Do we then make void the law through faith? God forbid: yea, we establish the law. We establish the law...
  8. TMS

    looking for help reconciling the Sabbath with common observation?

    Heb 8:10 For this is the covenant that I will make with the house of Israel after those days, saith the Lord; I will put my laws into their mind, and write them in their hearts: and I will be to them a God, and they shall be to me a people: I will put my Laws into their mind and write them in...
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    looking for help reconciling the Sabbath with common observation?

    Mar 2:27 And he said unto them, The sabbath was made for man, and not man for the sabbath: 28 Therefore the Son of man is Lord also of the sabbath. Mat 5:17-18 17 Think not that I am come to destroy the law, or the prophets: I am not come to destroy, but to fulfil. 18 For verily I say unto...
  10. TMS

    looking for help reconciling the Sabbath with common observation?

    I did not say Heb 4 does not include rest in Jesus. Rest throught the faith in what Jesus has done... The verses leading up to verse 9 uses the word rest... but verse 9 uses the word Sabbath rest.. So I say BOTH ARE INCLUDED. Heb 4:9-10 9 There remaineth therefore a rest (sabbath rest) to...
  11. TMS

    looking for help reconciling the Sabbath with common observation?

    Does it matter which day we rest. Does God specify which day was sanctified and set aside for holy use. God was specific about which tree to not eat of... we can't just take any day and say that will be okay.. God was specific. Mar 2:27-28 27 And he said unto them, The sabbath was made...
  12. TMS

    looking for help reconciling the Sabbath with common observation?

    Heb 4:10 For he that is entered into his rest, he also hath ceased from his own works, as God did from his. We are to cease from our works as God did from His. God did not cease for spiritual rest or salvation rest. God rested from labour and work and if we cease as God did we would keep...
  13. TMS

    looking for help reconciling the Sabbath with common observation?

    True... you got that right So do we become saved from sin by removing the law or by the death of Jesus? If we are not transgressing the law because the law has been removed, then we are not sinning. We do not need to be saved from sin if the law has been removed. 1Jn 3:4 Whosoever...
  14. TMS

    looking for help reconciling the Sabbath with common observation?

    So the way God rested was = justification rest. Did God need justification rest?
  15. TMS

    looking for help reconciling the Sabbath with common observation?

    I'm glad you see the sabbath as a moral law rooted in creation. But the error is that the bible does not support a change from the 7th to the first day of the week. Jesus did rise on the first day. But this is no reason to change the commandment given by God. Jesus rested on the sabbath...
  16. TMS

    looking for help reconciling the Sabbath with common observation?

    We should worship God every day. We should gather together as often as we can. What ever is practical. But the fact is that the 7th day sabbath was made Holy and sanctified by God. The sabbath was made for man, and we are commanded to rest on this day. Gather with people when ever...
  17. TMS

    looking for help reconciling the Sabbath with common observation?

    Exo 16:22-28 22 And it came to pass, that on the sixth day they gathered twice as much bread, two omers for one man: and all the rulers of the congregation came and told Moses. 23 And he said unto them, This is that which the LORD hath said, To morrow is the rest of the holy sabbath unto the...
  18. TMS

    looking for help reconciling the Sabbath with common observation?

    Read the commandment There is a clear difference between helping the needy and laboring for money.
  19. TMS

    looking for help reconciling the Sabbath with common observation?

    Gen 26:5 Because that Abraham obeyed my voice, and kept my charge, my commandments, my statutes, and my laws. Gravity is a law that affects us. God set many laws in place before Israel. Just because there is no record of these laws being spoken by God does not mean they do not exist. Why...