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Well, I came up with a new signature. Sometimes I just crack myself up: "Some people play Nintendo in 2D. Others in 3D. But I prefer playing in 10D. This is how I read my Bible. Don't be so "obtuse," be a 10-orthoplex." Thanks for the idea, Bob! (Yes, of course that was a dig... LOL)

That's too funny... . You have no idea of all the ways your comments are true. Not only is there plenty to read and digest, there is. But my comments may even leave his brain itching, requiring even a "new set of glasses" for the "inner most set of eyes." This is a very deep topic and...

So far you have gotten a mix of responses. But intertwined in all of them are some kind of bias. Let's just call it for what it is: Bias. It would be a mistake to say that in every scenario that it implies some kind of "plurality." But it would also be a mistake to say that it does not do so...

I want to throw an interesting wrench into things. You can thank me later! And if I deserve a good pummeling, then please do so... on both cheeks. That said, let me share with some additional thoughts: I do not think for a moment that Matt. 24:36 or Mark 13:32 is really an onjection to the...

Be the Berean, that is my advice. And if what I say is wrong, come correct.

There are a couple other posts I'll link to that are related. They might help someone, somewhere who is struggling with the idea of pre-existence. See Post #231, 232, 233, 234, and 235: The Trinity. It is very technical, beware.

It will certainly take some time to digest it all, I just hope I laid the posts out in an order that makes good sense, and comes full circle back to the main point. A lot of times we don't catch how the texts are all intertextually related and wind up making a huge boo-boo. Chew it over...

If you can manage to sift through all the material, I think you will find (like I do) that Deut. 32:39 and Isaiah 44-45 are central to the arguments laid out by Paul (1 Cor. 8-10, Heb. 1:6-12) and John (Jn. 1:1-3), particularly when it comes to the notion of pre-existence. It should also be...

Also Post #161 from, "Jesus, before he became a man." Focus attention (really key to the argument) to the allusions being made in Isaiah 45:5-6 with Gen. 1:1 and Jn. 1:1-3.

Complimentary of the prior post, I also want to reference Post #155 from that same thread, "Jesus, before he became a man." This post compliments what was stated prior. Try to weed through some of the "drama" that is intertwined, and extract from it the pertinent data.

To cite Post #224 from the thread entitled, "Jesus, before becoming a man,"

With what I had just stated in Post #16 (1 Cor. 8:5-6), consider the comments I had made to you several weeks ago in the thread entitled, "The Trinity" (Post #286),

To begin, I think the easiest thing to do would be to start with 1 Cor. 8:5-6. I really do hate reposting what has been said on other threads, but I think it may be of some benefit in our situation to bring all that information together into one spot so you can see how it all connects to one...

There's a couple things worth notating here. And please don't take what I'm about to say in the wrong way. I know (from first hand experiences that I’ve had on other threads) it is easy to succumb to “heightened senses” when certain notions go challenged, much like what took place in my recent...

Emphasis on the "love" part. And sometimes the people "arguing" don't recognize exactly what it is they are "arguing" against, when the two parties may just actually agree for the most part (with some slight variance). It makes the "argumentative" person look foolish, which then ends up with...

Sir, I am going to borrow your signature: "I could be wrong, I have been before." It might be useful to lighten the atmosphere when encountering some individuals.

I don't think you'll get response from CorrectiveLens. He has since high tailed it since the post was originally made. I was trying to get a few answers from him myself, but he kept interacting with CS1 and would not respond to me in any way. You have to tread very lightly, because in my...

It may be of some use to chew over Zechariah (specifically, 14:1-7), which got mentioned over in another thread, a discussion I will not drag onto this thread. Here the day of the Lord is referenced (the second coming of Christ). We are told YHWH will stand on the Mount of Olives and split...

The same way she reads my comments (out of their chronological order), she puts Job 38:4-7 prior to Gen. 1:1. I'm singing a hymn right now: Col. 1:16-17 (an ancient hymn or Pauline pros), and it says that angels didn't exist in Gen. 1:1 until they were created. it goes a little like this...