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    There will be no Rapture!!!

    A number of scholars believe (and I tend to agree with them) that "the man child" in Rev12 is not just Jesus alone, but Jesus as "Head" WITH "His body" (us)--so a corporate entity... just as the "woman" is a corporate entity (not representing an individual "woman"); This would correspond with...
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    There will be no Rapture!!!

    = ) I'm not trying to "over think it". I'm trying to ascertain what *you* do with certain scriptures... like: --"and we which are ALIVE and remain unto..." [the point in time this is speaking to], 1Th4, because so far in our discussion, the only thing you seem to be acknowledging is "bodily...
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    There will be no Rapture!!!

    Stating the facts. All this is saying is that His "bodily resurrection" was necessary (to fulfill this prophecy)... In other words, He's not going to sit on David's throne in just "soul/spirit" (no body)... nor can He, as a dead person. lol Chapter THREE tells the "WHEN" of it, though. = )...
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    There will be no Rapture!!!

    There is a difference in meaning between the two distinct words G386 (from G450) and that of G726 (they do NOT have the "same meaning"): --G386 - anastasis "ἀνάστασις anástasis, an-as'-tas-is; from G450; a standing up again, i.e. (literally) a resurrection from death (individual, genitive case...
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    There will be no Rapture!!!

    ^ And yet, in 1Cor15, the text states in v23, "[re: resurrection] But each IN HIS OWN ORDER [/ RANK]" (referring to that which v.2b had just been speaking about, due to the "BUT[-conjunction]" in v.23a); And in addition to that ^ , there's the point regarding the two distinct words Paul uses...
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    Pentecost 2024

    I have a couple (or a few :D ) minor niggles with this ^ . The Hebrew calendar (such as Hebcal) is not correct (on the matter of when Shavuot [/ Pentecost] / Feast of Weeks is). The calendar should reflect that this feast (just as Firstfruit does) always falls on a Sunday (fifty days following...
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    Contradictions in the Bible?

    ^ @Burn1986 , I guess it depends on how the OP was defining "fundamentalist"... as we know that its original meaning had to do with: "The Five Fundamentals of the Faith"; whereas in more recent times the term has morphed into something altogether different from this, as to meaning. The OP...
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    The killer flaw in pre-tribulation rapture doctrine

    No one is being "resurrected [from the dead]" in the Sheep and goat separation-judgment of the nationS. It's a judgment at the end of the Trib years (of STILL-LIVING persons--of the "nationS [pl]") as to who will ENTER the earthly Millennial Kingdom age (and who WON'T). [It corresponds...
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    CJ Lovik with another prophecy backing up his 2030 return of Jesus

    So I assume you didn't read my post about the GRAMMAR of Matthew 24:36 not saying what it is you THINK it is saying? I perceive you having a "reading comprehension" problem (if you are talking about me personally)... as I already specifically told you that I DISAGREED with the conclusion of...
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    CJ Lovik with another prophecy backing up his 2030 return of Jesus

    To be clear, I don't believe the video-maker is correct (on his take of the "dates"). And I didn't start the thread. I merely contributed to the thread when I felt it appropriate to do so. So I guess I will assume you believe that JESUS HIMSELF STILL DOES NOT "KNOW" even after His...
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    CJ Lovik with another prophecy backing up his 2030 return of Jesus

    Why is that "mine"? I assume you have and read your own copy of the Bible? If you cannot answer the simple question, "What leads you to believe that Jesus Himself STILL does not "KNOW" even now after His resurrection and ascension?"... ... then you can grump all you want ( :D ) , but I...
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    CJ Lovik with another prophecy backing up his 2030 return of Jesus

    ^ @Burn1986 , If I may first ask *you* a question... What leads you to believe that Jesus Himself STILL does not "KNOW" even now after His resurrection and ascension? (Scripture please.) Thanks. = )
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    CJ Lovik with another prophecy backing up his 2030 return of Jesus

    A few things to CONSIDER: --Daniel 11:31 is in the section prior to where v.36 starts out talking about the one we know as "the AC / man of sin" (compare v.36 with 2Th2:4a,8a,9--"whose COMING / ADVENT / ARRIVAL / PRESENCE / PAROUSIA"... "IN HIS TIME" v.6); Your verse 31 is speaking rather of...
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    There will be no Rapture!!!

    The parts I emphasized in your quote ^ are ASSUMPTIONS by you with no evidence. For example: --yes, the "2W" have "1260 days" associated with them (which end at the "6th Trumpet [events] / 2nd Woe"... when those are CONCLUDED); --nowhere does it say that the "144,000" only have [/exist in]...
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    There will be no Rapture!!!

    Well, in my post I never mentioned "the jewish wedding"... I only referred to the wording as found in Luke 12:36-37,38,40,42-44 (and its parallel,) where the TEXT ITSELF SAYS, "when he will RETURN FROM the wedding..." THEN "the MEAL [G347; used also in Mt8:11]" ... and then I asked, WHY DOES IT...
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    There will be no Rapture!!!

    Where you say, "it is evident from the passages surrounding it," what verse are you saying "the passages surrounding IT" make evident such? I would say, instead, that this is your pre-supposition. And not actually the case. = ) 1) There is only "ONE" RETURN (of Christ) to the earth (what is...
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    There will be no Rapture!!!

    A couple of thoughts to consider: --Luke 16:22 says, "the rich man also died and was buried" (it goes on to say, "And in hell [/hades] he..."); My question to you would be, let's say you and I are graverobbers... if we had dug out his grave at this point, do you believe his "body" would still...
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    There will be no Rapture!!!

    Three things come to mind: 1) the Matthew 27:52 text states, "...MANY bodies of the saints which slept arose"--it does NOT say all did... (and they went into the city and appeared to many, v.53--which I believe is told to us by way of *contrast* to what Jesus Himself did that very day...
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    Judgment Seat of Christ vs Great White Throne Judgment

    I don't think so. Here's why: we will be awarded "crowns / stephanous" at the BEMA, would you agree? Paul said, "Henceforth there is laid up for me a crown [G4735 - stephanos] of righteousness, which the Lord, the righteous judge, shall give me in that day: and not to me only, but unto all...
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    There will be no Rapture!!!

    Who said he was talking about the "DEAD unsaved"?? At the time of Christ's Second Coming to the earth Rev19, don't you believe there will be "unsaved" persons STILL-LIVING AT THAT PRECISE MOMENT? (when "EVERY" eye existing on the earth "SHALL SEE HIM"... right?). I mean, yes, my view is that...