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...word, see. [the "G4862 [UNIONed-with] [Him]" word is also used in 1Th4:14 (a verse I find is often misunderstood), and in the well-known ['rapture'] verse 1Thess4:17 "so shall WE ever be WITH [G4862 - UNIONed-with] the Lord." What I'm pointing out about those various texts AT TOP (which...

...CLAIM". What was it? What does the "false claim" (v.2) pertain to? [for the readers: Paul is BRINGING the Subject of Verse 1 (our Rapture event) TO BEAR UPON the matter of the "FALSE CLAIM" of Verse 2--but without the reader understanding WHAT THE FALSE CLAIM WAS (v.2), one cannot...

...is FURTHER ON UP, higher... TO "in the presence of the God and Father of us") [2Th2:1 is another verse speaking of the Subject of our rapture / snatch event] As to your comments on 1 John 3:2 ^ , notice the SAME Greek word that's used twice in 1Jn3:2 is also used twice in the following...

Hilarious! :D Well, that'd be a good argument... except we NOWHERE see that Jesus' body ("His glorious body") consisted of "helium" :) ... and I just pointed out, in the text of Phil3:21, which context states, 20For our citizenship is in heaven, from which also we eagerly wait for a Savior...

Paul, when he used that word "departure [G359 - analysis ]" (2Tim4:6), he was referring to his death (per context). However, "rapture [G726 - harpagēsometha ]" (1Thess4:17), when the entire corporate "Church WHICH IS HIS BODY" will be "SNATCHed-up/-away]" at once (in ONE "snatch-action"), that...

...--(at the 2:53-2:58-min mark) she says, "Jesus specifically says so shall the coming of the Son of man be, it doesn't say the pretribulation rapture" RIGHT[!], because this text (and context) is all about Jesus' Second Coming TO THE EARTH, FOR the promised and prophesied EARTHLY Millennial...

...Rev11:10 (these DISREGARDED the Word of God via these "2W"...) I DISAGREE that these two are "examples / illustrations" OF THAT [/our Rapture]. No. SEE AGAIN the Lk 17 [version OF SAME], which I just pointed out in my previous post about the vv.27,29 reference to "and destroyed [G622]...

...redemption draweth nigh (at His SECOND COMING TO THE EARTH, FOR the promised and prophesied EARTHLY Millennial Kingdom age--This is NOT "OUR RAPTURE" event, just to be clear) Does that make sense? [basically, I disagree only with the idea that "the TIMES of the Gentiles" (Lk21:24) was...

...(according to your reasoning) "8 ppl" PERISHED in the FLOOD?? (This doesn't make sense to me... :D ) ____________ The "Partial Rapture Theory" is not biblical... Recall, Paul (when referencing this) said, "we shall not all sleep, but we SHALL ALL BE CHANGED in a moment..." (and recall...

...EARTH]... SECOND COMING TO THE EARTH... EARTHLY MK AGE); Up to and INCLUDING His Olivet Discourse, He had NOT YET spoken ANYTHING about "our Rapture [IN THE AIR]"... but all about His Second Coming TO THE EARTH, FOR the promised and prophesied EARTHLY Millennial Kingdom age (which will...

I can agree, only because neither Matthew 24 nor Luke 17 are covering the Subject of "our Rapture" AT ALL. :) [In those passages, Jesus is covering the Subject of His (what we call) "Second Coming TO THE EARTH" (FOR the *earthly* MK age) and the specific, future, LIMITED time-period (Trib...

...the LIE / the FALSE / the PSEUDEI" in the Trib yrs); --however, it won't be the case that 100% of the unsaved people (having missed the rapture) will be sent this "strong delusion" by God; the ones that He won't be doing that to, are the ones who WON'T have hardened their hearts (as the...

...Rev5:6 (Isa3:13)... and the SEALS *ARE* "the beginning of birth PANGS" at the START of the 7-yr Tribulation Period which will thereafter unfold upon the earth (this MEANS that "Matt24:4-8 / Mk13:5-8 / Lk21:8-11"--"the beginning of birth PANGS" are what FOLLOW "our Rapture"). So, YES THERE IS!

--in Matthew 24:14 / 26:13, the "message" that WILL BE going forth (IN / DURING / WITHIN the Trib years; that is, FOLLOWING "our Rapture") especially IN THE FIRST HALF (that you seem to have "misplaced" [mislocated]) has the RESULTS of this [msg] SHOWN in Revelation 7:9[,14]... LET the readers...

...thread, where you'd asked (something like): PROVE that the "taken and left" verses speak to His Second Coming TO THE EARTH (and NOT to "our Rapture" point in time)... Well, where it says, "and THEY KNEW NOT UNTIL the flood came and took THEM all away"... the "THEY / THEM" is NOT speaking of...

No. I've not made that point whatsoever. [There WILL be people coming to faith in Christ when they find themselves IN the Tribulation Period. They are called "saints" also; just as, at times, members of "the Church WHICH IS HIS BODY" (that's us) are also called "saints"] ____________ BTW...

...word "PAROUSIA" (which means "presence"), and is speaking of "the coming / presence of our Lord Jesus Christ AND OUR episynagoges UNTO HIM" which refers to the time-slot of "OUR RAPTURE [IN THE AIR]" [like 1Th4:17 speaks to]? If you do NOT agree, then what do you believe VERSE 1 speaks of...

(As I already pointed out), 2 Thessalonians 2:1-2 (those two verses, in and of themselves) DO SAY IT!!

...not seem to acknowledge this, anywhere in his viewpoint / scheme-of-things) And although you and I seem to have disparate viewpoints of "rapture-timing," we DO agree that there WILL BE "SAINTS" who are IN THE TRIB, who will NOT take the mark and thus will be KILLED / BEHEADED / martyred...

...but it does make a difference to those holding either "Preterism" or "Historicism"... or even "Amillennialism"; However, it still doesn't align with Scripture. Scripture EQUATES "the beginning of birth pangs" and the "SEALS"... and "our Rapture" PRECEDES the opening of the FIRST SEAL! ;) ]