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The text says, "BEFORE THE FLOOD" they were doing this and that (normal things of this earth)--They DISREGARDED the Word of God via Noah (who "KNEW" of God's coming judgment [and took YEARS to "prepare the ark" as commanded]; and who was a "preacher of righteousness"); So this is no different...

The first seal is the Antichrist. Right. "the beginning of birth PANGS" = the SEALS... sooooo, the FIRST ONE JESUS LISTED *is* the Antichrist, where He said in Matt24:4 / Mk13:5 "G5100 - tis - 'A CERTAIN ONE' ['A CERTAIN ONE' bringing deception]"... i.e. SEAL #1!! --this ^ is his "whose...

The mark of the beast won't even be implemented until the SECOND HALF. So, while it is true that there will be believers (who'd come to faith FOLLOWING "our Rapture"--when they are IN the Trib) who will be "martyred" IN THE FIRST HALF (Seal #5), it won't be because of refusing "the mark" that...

I haven't seen you, or anyone, "debunk" this (the "144,000" are indeed YET FUTURE to us). On another note, what do you believe Jesus meant, when He said this to "the 12" - --(Matthew 19:28) Mat 19:28 "And Jesus said unto them, Verily I say unto you, That ye which have followed me, in the...

That's very big of you, and I appreciate you hearing me out and following up by investigating it. = ) Thank you both for clarifying your positions and correcting any misunderstandings between you. I appreciate this very much. = ) [let me just add... it is a very easy thing on discussion...

I haven't seen this thread till now. = ) And btw, deja vu... I feel like I've addressed this question numerous times in many past threads. = ) I'll attempt it again... but will make it very brief this time... --Verses 7 and 8 go together (time-wise); Verse 9's "who SHALL BE punished with"...

I'm not aware of any pre-tribbers here who say this (who knows); but in the event that you've mistakenly taken ME to be saying such :) (not!), I will remind you (what I've presented in many past posts) that Matthew 25:31-34 speaks of the Sheep and goats OF THE NATIONS [plural] (and being...

Again, you are inserting the idea "WHEN Jesus comes back" (there is NO "WHEN" in v.7), where instead it is STATING THE FACT OF "rest / repose with us IN THE REVELATION OF"; you are also inserting "RECEIVES rest [WHEN]" (where just the fact "rest / repose with us IN" is what it states); This is...

That's TRIB-STUFF (spans of time) 1) This doesn't say "when He comes TO GLORIFY His saints"; 2) THIS IS speaking of His Second Coming to the earth (Rev19), when He sends them away to "everlasting punishment"; But this only speaks of v.9's things (whereas vv.7-8 are the TRIB YEARS which...

You keep leaving out a very important part of that passage (v.9), which says, "Who [identifying them] SHALL BE [FUTURE tense] punished with everlasting destruction FROM the presence of the Lord, and FROM the glory of His power [10 WHEN He comes TO BE... and TO BE...]" "rest/repose with us IN...

I had wanted to comment on the video TITLE, posted in Post #55 (page 3) of this thread (posted by @Radius ), titled "Irenaeus was Pretrib"... ... I did NOT watch the video... ... but I just wanted to say that, based on the title alone, yes, this is what I'd pointed out in a past post... Post...

How do you interpret Luke 12:36-37,38,40 and context, where v.36 states, "when he will RETURN from the wedding..." THEN "the meal" [G347; same word used in Matt8:11 referring to the earthly MK age]" [for the readers: "the Bride / Wife [singular]" is not the INVITED "guests [plural]"...

The only way these 3 verses can be THOUGHT to say what JPT thinks they say, is by doing what JPT is doing in this text: --by mis-defining "that Day" (v.3)... incorrectly substituting "rapture" in place of that [phrase]; --by SMOOSHING TOGETHER "revealed" with "SO THAT he sits as God in the...

I have no clue if P.S. (in Ruby123's video) was saying such (that "our Rapture" is found ANYWHERE in Jesus' Olivet Discourse--it ISN'T; That simply was NOT the Subject Jesus was covering ANYWHERE in His Olivet Discourse), so if he was saying that in his video, I as a pre-tribber would thoroughly...

Okay [ :whistle: ] , so does this mean you believe the ones who were persecuting and troubling the Thessalonians were "recompenced / repaid" back at the time they and the Thessalonians existed on the earth, in their day--in the first century? For the readers: note that this word for...

Except "pretribbers" do NOT say Jesus "RETURNS" TWO times. (At least not the pretribbers who've been taught / learned correctly). I've pointed out how the word "return" (re: Jesus) speaks of His Second Coming to the earth time-slot (Rev19): --"when he will RETURN FROM the wedding" (i.e. as an...

I hate to say this... but you keep doing it, so I want to point this out to the readers at least... ... What you are doing is smooshing clauses together and leaving out a vital part in the middle, which makes the sentence say something entirely other than what it actually conveys. Instead, it...

What is so "bizarre" about defining "the day of the Lord" as the entire rest of Scripture itself defines it (rather than the faulty way that the "Amill-teachings" make up their own definition of it, here, by their disregarding how Scripture itself defines it)... I don't know how you can classify...

That's not "ADDING," that is defining terms and explaining. Something pastors do from pulpits every Sunday, and I don't hear you threatening yours or anyone else's for doing that. ;) :rolleyes:

I forget... If you don't mind repeating :D , could you remind me what your understanding of the phrase "in the midst of the week" refers to (what time-slot)... iow, it could be expressed, "in the midst of the 7-yr 'Week'"... Also, what are you saying took place at that point, if 34ad is the...