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    Preparation for the tribulation.

    ...earth, and his angels were thrown down with him. [Rev12] [for the readers: (just to be clear) I believe this ^ text refers to what WILL take place at the MID-point of the *future* Tribulation Period, when there are yet remaining "1260 days" until Christ's Second Coming to the earth Rev19]
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    Preparation for the tribulation.

    ...[chpts 2-3]) in 3:5, is shown AS FULFILLED ("having been clothed in") in 4:4... BEFORE the opening of the FIRST SEAL which kicks-off the Tribulation period (7 yr period). ____________ To your other point, we notice in the text of Hosea 5:14-6:3 (about Israel... and Israel's *future*)...
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    Preparation for the tribulation.

    ^ Well, I will just place this here for the readers... ...since in your post ^ you put the phrase "the great tribulation" three times, I feel the need to say this: --the "GREAT tribulation" is only the SECOND HALF (of the 7 year period); It consists of "the THREE WOES" (associated with...
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    Preparation for the tribulation.

    ...said: --(at the 2:53-2:58-min mark) she says, "Jesus specifically says so shall the coming of the Son of man be, it doesn't say the pretribulation rapture" RIGHT[!], because this text (and context) is all about Jesus' Second Coming TO THE EARTH, FOR the promised and prophesied EARTHLY...
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    The rapture? The comimg of Christ.

    ...('shepherd')]") that is also used in Revelation 7:[14,]17 (re: those "of all the nations" [v.9] who are shown as "coming out of GREAT tribulation [the SECOND HALF]"); and so verse 17 (PARALLEL to Isaiah 49:10) speaking of the MK age setting, says [v.17], "For the Lamb which is in the midst of...
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    The rapture? The comimg of Christ.

    ...OPPOSITE "beliefs" people WILL BE coming to, FOLLOWING "our Rapture" (when they find themselves IN the time-period we commonly call "the Tribulation Period"--the 7 years immediately preceding and LEADING UP TO His Second Coming TO THE EARTH Rev19); There are numerous passages showing the...
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    Preparation for the tribulation.

    ...had just SEEN ["saw"] in v.4b; and VERSE 4b speaks ONLY OF the saints who will have been martyred / beheaded IN THE LAST HALF of the Tribulation period (because the refused the mark of the beast); These 2 verses (v.4b and v.5b) speak ONLY of THOSE PARTICULAR saints (and NO OTHER ones)...
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    The rapture? The comimg of Christ.

    ...by Christ, when He will "STAND to JUDGE" Rev5:6 (Isa3:13)... and the SEALS *ARE* "the beginning of birth PANGS" at the START of the 7-yr Tribulation Period which will thereafter unfold upon the earth (this MEANS that "Matt24:4-8 / Mk13:5-8 / Lk21:8-11"--"the beginning of birth PANGS" are what...
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    The rapture? The comimg of Christ.

    ...2--in bracketed BOOKENDS, so to speak), Paul is CONTRASTING the TWO OPPOSITE "beliefs" people WILL BE coming to IN / DURING / WITHIN the Tribulation Period; I've pointed out how the phrases "the Day of the Lord" and "IN THAT DAY" whenever they are used in the SAME CONTEXTS (as they are here...
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    The rapture? The comimg of Christ.

    No. I've not made that point whatsoever. [There WILL be people coming to faith in Christ when they find themselves IN the Tribulation Period. They are called "saints" also; just as, at times, members of "the Church WHICH IS HIS BODY" (that's us) are also called "saints"] ____________ BTW...
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    Preparation for the tribulation.

    To BOY, I was pointing out only verses 1 & 2 (I was NOT speaking of ANYTHING BEYOND these TWO verses, which does NOT *include* the second part of your last sentence above ^ the part I underlined--that's NOT in either v.1 or v.2... so it would help to STAY ON POINT). So let's start by focusing...
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    30 seconds to midnight.

    ...of birth pangs" [i.e. the "SEALS"] will only commence FOLLOWING "our Rapture". They (the "BoBPs / SEALS") "kick off" the 7-yr Tribulation period that WE ("the Church WHICH IS HIS BODY") will NOT be present on the earth for. ["you tube videos" very often convey very faulty...
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    Netanyahu

    Then who are the "a great multitude... OF ALL THE NATIONS" v.9 (who are shown "coming out of GREAT tribulation [the SECOND HALF]" v.14)... chopped liver?! (lol)
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    Netanyahu

    2 Thessalonians 2 verses 1 & 2 DOES plainly state it. It's just that many teachers completely CONFLATE what is being stated in these two verses (verse 1 and verse 2), and thus misconstrue what it is that Paul is actually conveying here (basically because they do not grasp what it is that the...
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    Netanyahu

    ...way applicable... i.e. that you are not in any way associated with "the churchES"?) Now, while I AGREE with you that "persecutions and tribulations that YE ENDURE" (said to the Thessalonians, 2Th1:4) is TRUE OF US ALSO, at various times (throughout the entire time that we, "the Church...
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    Netanyahu

    We ("the Church WHICH IS HIS BODY") will not be present on the earth "during the tribulation [7-yr period]". CONSIDER: --the thing that was PROMISED (in "the things WHICH ARE" section of Rev) in Rev3:5a, "He that overcometh, the same shall be [future tense] clothed in white raiment [leukois...
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    The rapture? The comimg of Christ.

    ...in those days! Mat 24:20 But pray ye that your flight be not in the winter, neither on the sabbath day: Mat 24:21 For then shall be great tribulation, such as was not since the beginning of the world to this time, no, nor ever shall be. Mat 24:22 And except those days should be shortened...
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    The rapture? The comimg of Christ.

    That's not what the text of Matthew 24:22 says though. V.22's "THOSE days" (pointing back to v.21's "GREAT tribulation" which commences at the "AOD" point in time), is what the G2856 verb refers solely to (and yet it is the SAME duration of time it has always been prophesied to last [see...
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    Netanyahu

    ...[Yep, THEY ARE "BELIEVERS"!]--They come to faith FOLLOWING "our Rapture" and will exist [in their "role" shown in Rev] in / during the Tribulation Period [7-yr period].) The "144,000" (of ONE nation--Israel) is set in contradistinction to the "a great multitude... of ALL THE NATIONS...
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    The rapture? The comimg of Christ.

    No, that's when GREAT tribulation [the SECOND HALF] starts (not when the tribulation period IN ITS ENTIRETY begins, which is back at SEAL #1). So Rev13 is the same time-slot as both Matt24:15,21 [/2Th2:4b / Dan9:27b / (and around) Dan12:11... etc], ...but that's not the BEGINNING OF the "IN...