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    There will be no Rapture!!!

    I still don't know your answer to my question (or 2 questions): --"WHERE" do you think we go following "the meeting of the Lord IN THE AIR"? --"WHEN" do you believe "our Rapture" takes place (in relation to the Trib years)? [I thought you earlier said "pre-Satan's-wrath" i.e...
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    There will be no Rapture!!!

    Paul's Thessalonians epistles are referring to an "eschatological salvation" ("the One delivering us out-of THE WRATH COMING"--that is, COMING on the earth, to unfold upon it, OVER SOME TIME [i.e the '7 yrs']--NOT referring here to "hell"!!); i.e. [salvation/deliverance] via "our Rapture,"...
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    There will be no Rapture!!!

    ...I said: they are KILLED at the "6th Trumpet (events) [2nd Woe]"... which is AFTER the MID-point "5th Trumpet [1st Woe into the earth]" And...? How do you figure? ____________ "Seal #2" is INCLUDED within the "IN QUICKNESS [NOUN]" time-period we call "the tribulation period" (i.e. 7 yrs)
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    There will be no Rapture!!!

    ...was referring to "the whole church as a body" (which it IS)... "the Church WHICH IS HIS BODY" ... why does the majority of "the Church WHICH IS HIS BODY" get to miss out on "the tribulation period" and only "the last of them" have to experience it (per your view), was the gist of his question.
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    There will be no Rapture!!!

    I think you're missing what Genez was saying. He was referencing the specific, future, LIMITED time-period we commonly call the Tribulation period (7 years in duration [SEALS--TRUMPETS--VIALS!]... the "IN QUICKNESS [NOUN]" time-period [Rev1:1/1:19c/4:1]). Whereas YOU are referring to the...
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    There will be no Rapture!!!

    Fairly agree. I also believe "the 144,000" (of each of the tribes of Israel listed in Rev7) will be "sealed" (presumably for protection, based on the wording in 7:3 [see 8:6-10]), and "sealed" before the 1st Trumpet commences, so PRIOR TO the "5th Trumpet / 1st Woe unto the earth" MID-trib...
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    There will be no Rapture!!!

    ^ In his Post #2098, he wasn't saying that "pre-trib teaching" is what he's against. He was saying he's against the claim that this "teaching [pre-trib]" only started in the 1800's and thus those others (claiming this as fact) are wrong. Musicmaster himself is pre-trib. What he was...
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    There will be no Rapture!!!

    Would you mind perhaps re-phrasing this ^ sentence? I'm not able to discern your actual intended meaning here (possibly due to an incomplete sentence somewhere in the middle??) Musicmaster is "pre-trib" (at least I seem to recall that he is! LOL) That's why I *THINK* perhaps you...
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    There will be no Rapture!!!

    I never stated otherwise. I AGREE that ALL saints of ALL times will be present FOR "the wedding FEAST / SUPPER [/MK AGE]" (notice I mentioned "G347" in MATTHEW 8:11 and its parallel!) I wouldn't necessarily write the LIST in the same manner you have written it (I INCLUDE the "24 elders" /...
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    There will be no Rapture!!!

    During the tribulation period, this takes place: "[those (pl.)] HAVING BEEN INVITED TO the wedding SUPPER of the Lamb [/ the MK age]" (Rev19:9), speaking of the "guestS [plural]" (distinct from "the Bride/Wife [singular]" v.7) [btw, He is not "MARRYING" 10 or 5 virginS either! ;)...
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    There will be no Rapture!!!

    "the marriage SUPPER / FEAST" is the promised and prophesied EARTHLY Millennial Kingdom age (or at least its inauguration); its location is ON THE EARTH (following Christ's Second Coming TO THE EARTH Rev19). It corresponds with the wording, "the MEAL [G347]" in Luke 12:36-37,38,40 (and its...
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    There will be no Rapture!!!

    ^ Hi @ChocolateSheep , It sounds pretty "post-tribulation" because that is indeed the CONTEXT of the Matthew 13:24-30,37-43 passage (i.e. His Second Coming TO THE EARTH... FOR the commencement of the promised and prophesied EARTHLY Millennial Kingdom age, aka "the age [singular] to come"...
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    There will be no Rapture!!!

    This statement doesn't affect things either way... and I'll endeavor to explain below 1) Revelation 7:9 (the "a great multitude... of all the nations") is set in contradistinction to the "144,000" of ONE nation (the tribes of Israel named in that passage--"servants of our God"--12,000 from...
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    Mike Winger's "Why I think Calvinism is Unbiblical"

    Right. (y) And the KEY PHRASE (many miss) in His Olivet Discourse, informing of the "chronology" of things, is found in Luke 21:12: "12 BUT BEFORE ALL THESE [before all these beginning of birth pangs (from vv.8-11)]..."
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    There will be no Rapture!!!

    By your phrase "Pre-Wrath Tribulation" here, do you mean (the same as your phrase) "Pre-Satan's Wrath"? I DISAGREE with what it seems you're saying here. The ones "coming out of THE GREAT TRIBULATION" are coming out of having existed IN IT (i.e. IN the SECOND HALF--that is FOLLOWING the...
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    There will be no Rapture!!!

    ...Trumpet / 1st Woe unto the earth" being at MID-trib; when Satan will then be "cast unto the earth" and "having great wrath"--the "GREAT" tribulation commences at this point [i.e. the SECOND HALF]); 4) the "7 Vials" ("IN WHICH the wrath of God is COMPLETED"--not "is started AND completed"...
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    There will be no Rapture!!!

    Thanks for clarifying. So, are you saying you believe her "dream" is DESCRIBING "Pre-Wrath OF SATAN" instead (instead of "POST-trib Rapture")? ...and are you saying you agree with her description (i.e. that her "dream" was from God / is Truth)?
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    There will be no Rapture!!!

    ...STOOD NO MAN WITH HIM, while Joseph MADE HIMSELF KNOWN unto HIS BRETHREN" (when there were YET FIVE YEARS REMAINING of the "7 year famine" - v.6) [many more correlations could be mentioned... Not to mention, that Matt24:9 ("tribulation") also occurs IN THE FIRST HALF (prior to the AOD...
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    The Day and Hour Unknown

    This is my postion. (y) PRE-trib Rapture of "the Church which is His body" [Eph1:20-23 WHEN (as to its existence)]
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    CJ Lovik with another prophecy backing up his 2030 return of Jesus

    Yes, this is basically exactly how I see the TIMELINE as well (all of the above-quoted text). I assume you do too (since you posted this article)?