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    Predestination is misunderstood...

    It seems you are conflating the common phrase "the tribulation period" (used commonly to refer to the specific, future, LIMITED time-period immediately preceding and LEADING UP TO Christ's Second Coming to the earth at Rev19 [i.e. a 7-yr period / 2520 days]) with that of the following (which is...
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    There will be no Rapture!!!

    The phrase "the GREAT tribulation" refers only to the SECOND HALF of the seven year period (what follows on from the AOD at the MID-point). Many folks mistakenly label the ENTIRE 7-yr period "great tribulation"... but that is a misnomer. [so, no... this couldn't have been what Musicmaster...
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    There will be no Rapture!!!

    ...for Aunt Phyllis who happened to DIE five years ago (i.e. at least FIVE YEARS BEFORE she could possibly "be PURIFIED" by means of the [future] 7-year Tribulation Period)... sorry 'bout your luck, Aunt Phyllis! Too bad, so sad... but oh well! (do you not see the flawed logic of this...
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    There will be no Rapture!!!

    CONSIDER: --Matthew 24:29-31 (the CONTEXT of the verses you are referencing ^ ) is PARALLEL TO the passage in... --Isaiah 27:9, 12-13 (see WHO, and TO WHERE they are gathered, and IN WHAT MANNER they are gathered, etc)... [note that the Isa (27:9 "who") passage CORRESPONDS ALSO with both...
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    There will be no Rapture!!!

    For starters... let's start with this verse ^ you've put. Would you agree that: --Matthew 24:9 (this verse you're pointing out) is PART OF what follows on from "the BEGINNING of birth pangs" Jesus just spoke of in vv.4-8 (and that these are PARALLEL to the future "SEALS" at the start of the...
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    There will be no Rapture!!!

    ...Bible so as for us ourselves to boast in you in the churches of God about your endurance and faith in all your persecutions, and in the tribulations that you are bearing. King James Bible So that we ourselves glory in you in the churches of God for your patience and faith in all your...
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    Revelation: A Cyclical View

    May I ask, who are you quoting in your Quote Box of your Post #116... you didn't say... where you'd put: ... is this Darby himself writing this? Just asking. = )
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    Revelation: A Cyclical View

    ...as I understand it, many way back in that time [even in the 1700's] considered there ONLY to be a 3.5-yr period for what we label the tribulation period, so technically, when they said 3.5 yrs separated the two distinct events, they thus considered the "rapture" AS BEING [what we label]...
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    Revelation: A Cyclical View

    ...Isa49:10--an earthly Millennial Kingdom passage)--said re: the "a great multitude... of all the nations" coming out of "the GREAT tribulation" (i.e. 2nd half); and "rod" is the same Greek word as "sceptre" in Heb1:8--"and unto the Son: 'Thy throne, O God, is to the age [singular] of the age...
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    Revelation: A Cyclical View

    ...down to see "references" also: Hommel; Wilkinson; Norton). Thanks! Post #123 - https://christianchat.com/threads/the-doctrinal-belief-of-a-pre-tribulation-resurrection-is-not-spoken-of-in-the-word-of-god-it-was-created-by-a-sick-and-deranged-woman.190422/post-4175367 Hope this helps. = )
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    Are you pre-Trib, mid-Trib, or post-Trib?

    Right, but didn't you ALSO say that's when "the wedding feast / supper of the Lamb" also takes place?? It seems you said BOTH take place AFTER the Trib. [I'm explaining why the text itself does not reflect such a notion. Nor do the "illustrations" in the various related texts] Revelation...
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    Are you pre-Trib, mid-Trib, or post-Trib?

    ...never said "the wedding FEAST / SUPPER" precedes the Trib yrs; No, because the "INVITING" TO IT is what takes places ALL THROUGHOUT THE TRIBULATION PERIOD ["those [plural] HAVING BEEN INVITED [PERFECT participle]..."--THAT PART is completed (on the earth) by the time He's getting ready to...
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    Are you pre-Trib, mid-Trib, or post-Trib?

    You really have missed my point. The "wedding FEAST / SUPPER / festivities" only takes place after His RETURN TO THE EARTH; ...it does NOT take place UP THERE... ... and is NOT what takes place upon "our Rapture [IN THE AIR]" (it doesn't take place up there AT ALL--"the wedding FEAST/SUPPER"...
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    Are you pre-Trib, mid-Trib, or post-Trib?

    ...chpts 4-19]--some more readily apparent than others), that will provide that very information to those who will find themselves IN the Tribulation period (IF they will but heed His word--and we know that while a great many WILL heed His word, many others will not [just as in the days of...
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    Are you pre-Trib, mid-Trib, or post-Trib?

    "The Bride / Wife [SINGULAR]" (v.7; UP THERE WITH HIM) is NOT the INVITED "guests [PLURAL]" ("having been INVITED [perfect participle]" v.9, all throughout the Trib yrs on the earth); "The Bride / Wife [SINGULAR]" is the ONLY ONE to/for/about whom "THE MARRIAGE" itself pertains (and it will...
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    Are you pre-Trib, mid-Trib, or post-Trib?

    Consider: --"the wedding FEAST / SUPPER / FESTIVITIES" takes place upon His "RETURN" to the earth, and IS "the promised and prophesied EARTHLY Millennial Kingdom age" (or at least, its inauguration); --so, yes, ALL "saints" will BE PRESENT to enjoy it (some as "the Bride/Wife [singular]"...
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    Are you pre-Trib, mid-Trib, or post-Trib?

    ...existence on the earth, since the first century... and up till "our Rapture") CAN (at any given moment or spans of time) EXPERIENCE "tribulation" and "persecutions" and even "martyrdom" (NOTHING in Scripture precludes such). What we are NOT "appointed to" is: --"the wrath coming"...
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    Are you pre-Trib, mid-Trib, or post-Trib?

    As a pre-tribber, I am always pointing out that "the Church which is His body" has been experiencing "persecutions and tribulations" (and even martyrdom) THROUGHOUT its entire existence on the earth from the first century (some near 2000 years, to this point). We are not WAITING for the future...
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    Are you pre-Trib, mid-Trib, or post-Trib?

    From how I am reading what "GRACE_ambassador" wrote in his post, I don't believe he said "NO saint will suffer wrath"; instead, he said "The Church WHICH IS HIS BODY" is who was (in particular) promised not to suffer wrath (1Th5:9; 1Th1:10, etc)... not all other saints of all OTHER time...