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    There will be no Rapture!!!

    [well, first of all... not ALL of the people who will come to faith FOLLOWING "our Rapture" when they find themselves IN the Trib yrs will [100% of them] BE MARTYRED; no, SOME will survive CLEAR TO THE END, and will ENTER the MK age in their mortal bodies--For example: Dan12:12 "BLESSED is he...
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    There will be no Rapture!!!

    ...AND REMAIN" means "remain/s TO THE END OF THE TRIB YRS" time-slot (but it does not mean that--it is his pre-supposition [of a POST-trib Rapture event] that demands such a meaning ;) ). [I believe people often MISS the fact that 1Th4:13-17 is in the CONTEXT OF 1Th3:13--the...
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    There will be no Rapture!!!

    ...Luke 17 (where the example of Noah / "as the days of Noah were, SO SHALL"... is given), I do NOT believe he's [shown as] an example of "our Rapture [IN THE AIR]" time-slot; but instead, those who will exist in the Trib yrs and who will ENTER the promised and prophesied EARTHLY Millennial...
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    There will be no Rapture!!!

    ...Because He will be an "ALREADY-WED Bridegroom" at that time-slot (when he "RETURNS" to the earth Rev19) 2) There is likewise only "ONE" RAPTURE [IN THE AIR], and it pertains SOLELY TO "the Church WHICH IS HIS BODY" (not to all other saints of all OTHER time periods: not to OT saints, not to...
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    There will be no Rapture!!!

    [sorry... reposting to correct the LINK] As for my Post #3380 I'd mentioned, the Subject THAT post was covering is: Why the number "24"? -- https://christianchat.com/threads/50-reasons-for-a-pretribulational-rapture-by-dr-john-f-walvoord.198357/post-4577413
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    There will be no Rapture!!!

    As for my Post #3380 I'd mentioned, the Subject THAT post was covering is: Why the number "24"? --https://christianchat.com/threads/50-reasons-for-a-pretribulational-rapture-by-dr-john-f-walvoord.198357/post-4577413
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    There will be no Rapture!!!

    ...under the video): Post #3334 (and a slight "correction" in Post #3335) - https://christianchat.com/threads/50-reasons-for-a-pretribulational-rapture-by-dr-john-f-walvoord.198357/post-4577199 (and see a couple of follow-up posts: #3379 & #3380) Would like to hear your thoughts on that. =...
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    There will be no Rapture!!!

    ......where the words "PUT ON [G1746]" refers to our being clothed with our "glorified [perfected] bodies" (at the time-slot of "our Rapture"), and which word [G1746] is used also in 2Cor5:3 where there it is emphasizing the "still-alive" portion of the "One Body" (whereas "unclothed" in that...
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    Judgment Seat of Christ vs Great White Throne Judgment

    ...of] God, even our Father, at the coming [/parousia] of our Lord Jesus Christ with all his saints." IOW, that's UP THERE! At the time of "our Rapture" event! 1Th4:17) 2) "Am I [Paul] not free? Am I not an apostle? Have I not seen Jesus our Lord? Are you not my work in the Lord?" - 1Cor9:1...
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    Judgment Seat of Christ vs Great White Throne Judgment

    ...but the time of the "BEMA" (for awards / rewards)... when we (the Church WHICH IS HIS BODY) will ALL be present there (i.e. following "our Rapture [IN THE AIR]"). [I often refer to the example of the "24 elders" shown wearing the ALREADY-AWARDED "stephanous / crowns"... and note the...
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    There will be no Rapture!!!

    ...is what the disciples' LATER question to Jesus in Matt24:3 was BASED ON (what He had ALREADY SPOKEN to them about in Matt13 re: "the end [singular] of the age [singular]")... and His response follows, in 2 Chpts (24-25)--BTW, this is in the EXACT OPPOSITE SEQUENCE from that of "our Rapture"...
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    There will be no Rapture!!!

    ...any hell?" Now, to be clear, I do NOT see the "taken" [and "left"] verses (Mt24:40-41 / Lk17:34-35 ^ ) to be speaking of "taken in our Rapture" (I believe "taken" in these texts refers to those "taken away IN JUDGMENT" just as in Noah's day... IOW, it was NOT Noah who "knew not until," it...
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    There will be no Rapture!!!

    ...time (which precedes Rev19's time-slot), which ALSO uses the "PUNISH [H6485]" wording (and no I do not see this passage as pertaining to "our Rapture [IN THE AIR]" as some do): "For, behold, the LORD cometh out of his place to punish [H6485] the inhabitants of the earth for their iniquity...
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    There will be no Rapture!!!

    ...I'm NOT making the point that you are suggesting I was making. = ) (My point HERE had nothing whatsoever to do with the distinction in timing between "our Rapture [G726] [IN THE AIR]" and His "Return" to the earth... I'm not covering that in these two recent posts to you... Just to be clear.)
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    Gather the wheat into my barn

    ...recall your stance on this particular issue: --[if you don't mind refreshing my memory on your viewpoint on this] Do you believe that more people will [/will be able to] come to faith AFTER "our Rapture"? (or that no one can / will... iow, no further people will be saved following "our...
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    Gather the wheat into my barn

    Yes, because "the Church which is His body" (that's us) to/for/about whom the "Rapture [/caught up - G726]" solely pertains, is not the "WHEAT" harvest. = )
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    Revelation: A Cyclical View

    I had said, [1Th4:17] "SO [/in this manner] shall we ever be WITH [G4862 - UNIONed-WITH] the Lord"... that occurs at [the time of] "our Rapture" (NOT at the 7 yrs LATER Rev19 time-slot, when He is getting ready to return to the earth in that scene). IOW, we don't hang out with Him for 7 years...
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    Revelation: A Cyclical View

    ...bride/wife [singular] PREPARED"--this part has already taken place *UP THERE* BY THE TIME of this Rev19 time-slot... and you know that "our Rapture" [with the "[G4862] UNIONed-WITH Him" wording in 1Th4:17 which took place BACK *PRIOR TO* this point in the chronology] had already occurred)...
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    Revelation: A Cyclical View

    ^ P.S. where that QUOTE (by whomever) said this: ... as a "pre-tribber, [pre-trib Rapture]" I completely DISAGREE that "the wedding FEAST / SUPPER" takes place UP THERE (upon "our Rapture"); but believe rather that it takes place ON THE EARTH, and IS "the promised and prophesied EARTHLY...
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    Revelation: A Cyclical View

    May I ask, who are you quoting in your Quote Box of your Post #116... you didn't say... where you'd put: ... is this Darby himself writing this? Just asking. = )