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...Rev19:7 and 19:9!); 3) Paul ALSO, in his 2Th1 & 2 chpts, tells of the TWO OPPOSITE "beliefs" people WILL BE coming to FOLLOWING "our Rapture"--so the "a great multitude... of all the nations" [besides the 144,000 of Israel, etc] being a number that no one can count can certainly be [among]...

...commencement of the promised and prophesied EARTHLY Millennial Kingdom age (aka "the wedding FEAST / SUPPER") [note: this is not a full list of ALL that will transpire (future)... just what is included in the Olivet Discourse portions!! (which NOWHERE covers the Subject of "our Rapture"!)]

Thanks for clarifying. So, are you saying you believe her "dream" is DESCRIBING "Pre-Wrath OF SATAN" instead (instead of "POST-trib Rapture")? ...and are you saying you agree with her description (i.e. that her "dream" was from God / is Truth)?

And some of us already pointed out to you (wasn't it also in this thread?) that Margaret Macdonald's dream described a POST-trib Rapture!! (NOT "PRE-") Nobody is listening to M. MacDonald! Hello! (i.e. Darby did not get his ideas FROM HER!) She was a disciple of E. Irving (an...

But "Darby" was not the "source" of the doctrine of the Pre-trib Rapture. More than one person in this Thread has pointed out people WELL-BEFORE "Darby" who [also] DISTINGUISHED (time-wise) between our "Rapture" and Christ's "Second Coming [to the earth]". So how can "Darby" have possibly...

This is my postion. (y) PRE-trib Rapture of "the Church which is His body" [Eph1:20-23 WHEN (as to its existence)]

Agreed! (y)

...2597 [e] katabēsetai καταβήσεται will descend V-FIM-3S 575 [e] ap’ ἀπ’ from Prep 3772 [e] ouranou οὐρανοῦ , heaven [this reference IS equated with "the LAST" trumpet spoken of in 1Cor15:52, pertaining to US / the Church WHICH IS HIS BODY and our "change" at the time-slot of "our Rapture"]

...but see them ALL as being distinct, with distinct PURPOSES (and wholly distinct time-slots). I see the "LAST" trumpet (at which "our Rapture" takes place) is associated rather with the LAST TIME that "The FIRST and the LAST" [Person(Rev1:10-11)]'s voice spake like a Trumpet... and THAT...

...being gathered... and then you will begin to grasp that these persons are NOT "the Church WHICH IS HIS BODY" (US) NOR is it speaking of "our Rapture [IN THE AIR--with its destination LOCATION being disclosed in 1Th3:13! UP THERE!]--In EVERY WAY *DISTINCT* from that of Matt24:29-31 / Isaiah...

...AC doesn't "sitteth" IN US!, as some like to suggest); ____________ Once "the Church WHICH IS HIS BODY" departs this earth in "our Rapture [IN THE AIR; headed to 1Th3:13's destination!]," there is NO "temple" located on the earth at that point... so NOTHING prevents 2Th2:4 /...

[well, first of all... not ALL of the people who will come to faith FOLLOWING "our Rapture" when they find themselves IN the Trib yrs will [100% of them] BE MARTYRED; no, SOME will survive CLEAR TO THE END, and will ENTER the MK age in their mortal bodies--For example: Dan12:12 "BLESSED is he...

...AND REMAIN" means "remain/s TO THE END OF THE TRIB YRS" time-slot (but it does not mean that--it is his pre-supposition [of a POST-trib Rapture event] that demands such a meaning ;) ). [I believe people often MISS the fact that 1Th4:13-17 is in the CONTEXT OF 1Th3:13--the...

...Luke 17 (where the example of Noah / "as the days of Noah were, SO SHALL"... is given), I do NOT believe he's [shown as] an example of "our Rapture [IN THE AIR]" time-slot; but instead, those who will exist in the Trib yrs and who will ENTER the promised and prophesied EARTHLY Millennial...

...Because He will be an "ALREADY-WED Bridegroom" at that time-slot (when he "RETURNS" to the earth Rev19) 2) There is likewise only "ONE" RAPTURE [IN THE AIR], and it pertains SOLELY TO "the Church WHICH IS HIS BODY" (not to all other saints of all OTHER time periods: not to OT saints, not to...

[sorry... reposting to correct the LINK] As for my Post #3380 I'd mentioned, the Subject THAT post was covering is: Why the number "24"? -- https://christianchat.com/threads/50-reasons-for-a-pretribulational-rapture-by-dr-john-f-walvoord.198357/post-4577413

As for my Post #3380 I'd mentioned, the Subject THAT post was covering is: Why the number "24"? --https://christianchat.com/threads/50-reasons-for-a-pretribulational-rapture-by-dr-john-f-walvoord.198357/post-4577413

...under the video): Post #3334 (and a slight "correction" in Post #3335) - https://christianchat.com/threads/50-reasons-for-a-pretribulational-rapture-by-dr-john-f-walvoord.198357/post-4577199 (and see a couple of follow-up posts: #3379 & #3380) Would like to hear your thoughts on that. =...

......where the words "PUT ON [G1746]" refers to our being clothed with our "glorified [perfected] bodies" (at the time-slot of "our Rapture"), and which word [G1746] is used also in 2Cor5:3 where there it is emphasizing the "still-alive" portion of the "One Body" (whereas "unclothed" in that...

...of] God, even our Father, at the coming [/parousia] of our Lord Jesus Christ with all his saints." IOW, that's UP THERE! At the time of "our Rapture" event! 1Th4:17) 2) "Am I [Paul] not free? Am I not an apostle? Have I not seen Jesus our Lord? Are you not my work in the Lord?" - 1Cor9:1...