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The phrase “the day of the Lord” is used often in the Old Testament (e.g. Isaiah 2:12; 13:6, 9; Ezekiel 13:5, 30:3; Joel 1:15, 2:1,11,31; 3:14; Amos 5:18,20; Obadiah 15; Zephaniah 1:7,14; Zechariah 14:1; Malachi 4:5) and several times in the New Testament (e.g. Acts 2:20; 1 Corinthians 5:5; 2...

Adstar, [Did people approach Jesus when they where still sinners in the days of the first coming of Jesus? Yes...] Hello Adstar, Yes ,people did approach Jesus here on earth, before the cross. He had taken upon Himself a "body of flesh". This took place before He ascended up to the Throne...

I like the work you put into your chart, but I believe it is mistaken, in that you try to put it all future to the second coming. The Judgements were day of the Lord judgments that already happened in OT.Time. There have been several, not one. Peter does not say the events of Pentecost were...

I am trying to get you to explain how the rod of iron rule takes place. I find it to be unreal. Does Jesus appear on the nightly news? Do unsaved people full of sin, casually approach the glorified Christ? Do sinners somehow stop sinning?

Hello Gary, Okay ,thanks for your response and clarifying what you believe at the present time. Thanks for sharing your link to your site. Now why I do not agree. I do believe stars are literal.I do believe many of the stars are much larger than our sun, This language however is symbolic of...

A proper study of this passage shows the "we" mentioned here are the justified elect who have peace with God...Rom 5:1, they are indwelt by the Spirit now. All men, are born in Adam, spiritually dead. All In the last Adam, are born again, born from above. It is not the same Adam, it is not the...

Gary, could you give me your thoughts on post #153

11 And that, knowing the time, that now it is high time to awake out of sleep: for now is our salvation nearer than when we believed. 12 The night is far spent, the day is at hand: let us therefore cast off the works of darkness, and let us put on the armour of light. 13 Let us walk honestly...

No, salvation has to do with grace, and mercy, God setting His love on the elect. End times is important, but not a salvation issue, unless someone denies the return of the Lord Jesus.

Mt13:11 He answered and said unto them, Because it is given unto you to know the mysteries of the kingdom of heaven, but to them it is not given. jn10: 26 But ye believe not, because ye are not of my sheep, as I said unto you. 27 My sheep hear my voice, and I know them, and they follow me:

So, are you saying that sin will not be punished? Only not keeping feasts will be punished? What about daily sin? Normal sins do not need to be punished> What atonement is made for daily sin? What propitiation is there?

Well Gary, that is exactly what we are considering. I think it will prove interesting.

GaryA, [I believe that some of the prophecy of Revelation has already been fulfilled; however, I would not say that most has been fulfilled. Are you saying/suggesting that all of what the seals, trumpets, and vials represent was fulfilled before 70 A.D.?] Ok, it is good to agree as much as we...

That is okay. Sometimes just raising the question allows us more time to think it through and consider if the truth is still being revealed to us by comparing scripture with scripture.

Good verses.. to examine. Notice there are Heathen present, They get smitten for not observing a feast day. Now let me ask, what about doing regular sins, like we do right now, in our non glorified bodies??? How does the ...rod of Iron view handle them???

Hello Gary, most of revelation did happen on earth, by 70 ad. !9-22 is still to be completed. Nothing here says the current reign is on earth, but Hebrews 12 says The reign and rule is from the Heavenly Zion now,

I held this view years ago. There are "new people born during your "earthly millenium". They are sinners. They will sin. So the question remains, how exactly does the rod of iron rule work, in detail?

9 And when he had opened the fifth seal, I saw under the altar the souls of them that were slain for the word of God, and for the testimony which they held: 10 And they cried with a loud voice, saying, How long, O Lord, holy and true, dost thou not judge and avenge our blood on them that dwell...

.I and many others was taught these ideas at first, but That is not always what has been believed. Let me ask a few questions to clarify what is at issue. Describe the Rod of iron view, in your scheme. How exactly does it work? Do unsaved people have the ability to no longer sin? If and when...

Hello Gary A, Jesus reign began at His Ascension...Acts 1/ Dan 7. He is reigning from the Heavenly Zion And Jerusalem right now Heb12:22-29 He rules in the midst of His enemies...Psalm110. 70 Ad was not a physical coming. It was A coming in Judgment against apostate Jerusalem. Jesus returns...