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  1. J

    A NON-CHARISMATIC UNDERSTANDING OF TONGUES

    My apologies. i will clarify, if I may. What I am meaning is that we cannot solely lean on the scriptures for all direction, because it is inevitable that there will be some empty gaps. The Bible encompasses alot, but it is impossible to have all of life's answers in one book. As a result, when...
  2. J

    A NON-CHARISMATIC UNDERSTANDING OF TONGUES

    Also, why did all of those in the upper room, numbering 120, speak in tongues if that promise was only to the apostles?
  3. J

    A NON-CHARISMATIC UNDERSTANDING OF TONGUES

    There are many things that we do that were told to the Apostles that we use and follow today. Communion for example. He told the apostles to do it to remember Him, yet we still do it to this day, Do we stop doing communion because it was asked of the apostles? No. How am I using scripture to...
  4. J

    A NON-CHARISMATIC UNDERSTANDING OF TONGUES

    Paul was lead by the Spirit Acts 13:2 While they were ministering to the Lord and fasting, the Holy Spirit said, "Set apart for Me Barnabas and Saul for the work to which I have called them."
  5. J

    A NON-CHARISMATIC UNDERSTANDING OF TONGUES

    We need more than the scripture for direction, my friend. If you read the scripture you would see this. John 14:26 says "But the Helper, the Holy Spirit, whom the Father will send in my name, he will teach you all things and bring to your remembrance all that I have said to you." The HOLY...
  6. J

    A NON-CHARISMATIC UNDERSTANDING OF TONGUES

    Are you trying to prove that tongues are demonic? Are you trying to prove that they are bad? What exactly are you arguing for because I don't know what you are trying to argue here?
  7. J

    The Key Issue We've All Been Ignoring ....PRAYING IN THE SPIRIT(TONGUES)

    The Holy Spirit came was released into the earth following Jesus's ascension into heaven and it is by the Holy Spirit that we speak in tongues. For this reason, Jesus did not speak in tongues. Secondly, speaking in tongues is ABSOLUTELY praying the Spirit, unless you believe the Bible to be...
  8. J

    A NON-CHARISMATIC UNDERSTANDING OF TONGUES

    My faith is in Jesus. But that is besides the point that is being argued. The point being argued is that we need to have faith in what God is telling us through the Spirit. If we do not listen to what the Spirit is telling us, which you and others seem to think we should do, not listen to what...
  9. J

    A NON-CHARISMATIC UNDERSTANDING OF TONGUES

    There are two convents, one stopped and another began when Jesus died on the cross
  10. J

    A NON-CHARISMATIC UNDERSTANDING OF TONGUES

    But does that mean that we just stick our head in the sand and wait for Jesus to come back? If Jesus comes back and we simply stick our head in the sand he will wonder what we are doing, especially with the parable that was told about the man who hid his coin and did nothing with it. We are...
  11. J

    A NON-CHARISMATIC UNDERSTANDING OF TONGUES

    In the Old Testament people were saved under the old covenant through the sacrifice of pure animals. In the new covenant Jesus was the pure being that was sacrificed. God has not changed, the method of how someone attains the clearing of their sins has changed between convanents. And the Holy...
  12. J

    A NON-CHARISMATIC UNDERSTANDING OF TONGUES

    1 Corinthians 14:4 says He who speaks in a tongue edifies himself, but he who prophesies edifies the church. This verse clearly makes your point invalid, "He who speaks in the tongue EDIFIES himself"
  13. J

    A NON-CHARISMATIC UNDERSTANDING OF TONGUES

    If a pastor says it is from God, we should take his word for it unless God speaks to us telling us otherwise.
  14. J

    A NON-CHARISMATIC UNDERSTANDING OF TONGUES

    Lets say we go with the interpretation you are quoting for arguments sake. If we look at the verse below: Though I speak with the tongues of men and of angels... (1 Corinthians 13:1). We can see that Paul said he speaks with tongues(languages of men and of angels, which backs my idea of...
  15. J

    A NON-CHARISMATIC UNDERSTANDING OF TONGUES

    How do you know Christianity is true? It all comes down to faith. I have faith and trust that my Spirit is leading me in the right direction. If I don't have faith then what happens?
  16. J

    A NON-CHARISMATIC UNDERSTANDING OF TONGUES

    If tongues are not active, then what did I experience?
  17. J

    A NON-CHARISMATIC UNDERSTANDING OF TONGUES

    If they SEE God is that not a sign? Just a different kind of sign? People believe that the Word is living, and that it will speak to them, is that not a sign? We have signs all around us. If a church rejects it how can it work? It cannot work if people flat out reject the idea of these signs...
  18. J

    A NON-CHARISMATIC UNDERSTANDING OF TONGUES

    I need to log off, I am off to church Bible study, I shall return with my answers.
  19. J

    A NON-CHARISMATIC UNDERSTANDING OF TONGUES

    You can discern it in your Spirit. God will inform you through the Spirit whether it is true or not. You can feel it in the Spirit.
  20. J

    A NON-CHARISMATIC UNDERSTANDING OF TONGUES

    Those fit under two Covenants. There is the Old Testament Covenant that required animal sacrifice, and required God to speak down on humanity. We are now under the New Convenant, in which Jesus covers our sins, and God lives within us and speaks through us by signs and miracles through the...