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  1. Sculpt

    Scripture Based Flat Earth Proposition

    Yes, you described my post correctly in your first sentence. It's a little creative writing. ;) I have years of personal relations with flat earthers in real life (longtime and former flat-earthers), and also with people I really enjoy here on the forum. I've learned "flat-earthing" is a...
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    Scripture Based Flat Earth Proposition

    Gary's right, it's about gnosticism. It's an elevated club. It's "special" knowledge. When Christian scientists who have expertise in the directly relevant science (such as astronomy) present their own personal observations and proofs that the earth is spherical and invite the listener to do...
  3. Sculpt

    Star Trek Thread

    I agree with you, some of the planets with the original FX were a bit dark and muddy compared to the new FX. But otherwise, I like the original FX. Really, I don't think they were at all necessary, but I like the series was remastered in HD. I would imagine most of the space battle look better...
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    Star Trek Thread

    Really?! That's surprising. Do recall what reasons he gave? I suppose in the comic if things changed enough, he might have a good reason.
  5. Sculpt

    Who is to blame for the latest Isreal Palestine war really ?

    Hi Megenta! I hear ya. But I also have never experienced someone asking that question in a vacuum either. As in, there's usually a "so, this..." coming after it. So, I wonder why you're asking the question? That was basically my best answer to that general question. Different types of...
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    Star Trek Thread

    Welcome to the thread! Are watched your vid and don't disagree with you. Of course, 90+% of the Original Series and Next Gen episodes were not written by Roddenberry. I'm no expert, but I think I heard, at least while he was alive, he did lay down the basic themes and made some editorial...
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    Who is to blame for the latest Isreal Palestine war really ?

    I wrote, "People have different angles on the info, but it's the same info." If we want to say anything meaningful, we need to be specific. I don't know what you're trying to say by your post. Is there anything specific in the video you found not historically accurate? Are you saying all...
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    Scripture Based Flat Earth Proposition

    Just curious, do you know what a metaphor is? Metaphor: A figure of speech in which a word or phrase that ordinarily designates one thing is used to designate another, thus making an implicit comparison, as in “a sea of troubles”. The Bible has many metaphors, like: John 6:35 Jesus said to...
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    Who is to blame for the latest Isreal Palestine war really ?

    HeIsHere can certainly provide historical sources. But let me add this historical information is bountiful and at your fingertips, namely websites and youtube, but also certainly books and periodicals as well. I've researched the history over the last 30+ years from a hundred different...
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    Scripture Based Flat Earth Proposition

    I think I just said what you said... Water from 'the waters above the firmament' passed through the open windows of heaven -- ('windows of heaven' being the firmament: 2nd & 1st heaven, area of sun, moon, stars, sky) -- onto the surface of the earth. As in, you can't pass through a closed...
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    Scripture Based Flat Earth Proposition

    What I wrote doesn't read there was one system and then it was changed to another system. It reads (or suggests, depending how you interpret it) that during the 6 days of creation, it hadn't rained until day 6. That's all. When you're assembling one whole interdependent system in steps (i.e...
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    Scripture Based Flat Earth Proposition

    Scripture reads God declared the rainbow as a visual sign of the covenant to not flood the earth again. That doesn't necessarily mean it was the first time a rainbow ever existed. In fact, a rainbow/prism is a natural occurrence in God's creation. People could see a rainbow when the watered...
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    Scripture Based Flat Earth Proposition

    Ah, I got ya now. You're saying the window is the 2nd heaven. OK, that makes a lot more sense. Thanks for clarifying that. All-in-all, we just disagree. I think the best reading is, since the water above the firmament was separated from below the firmament for a reason, I would be weary...
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    Scripture Based Flat Earth Proposition

    Yes, I know he is. And that's why Romans34's proposition isn't reasonable. He just got done stressing he's basing his proposal on the rain coming through the open windows of heaven. Please tell me we know what a window is and its function, right? The windows of heaven were opened -- so that...
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    Scripture Based Flat Earth Proposition

    Well, in our discussions about if the Flood rains came from the 3rd heaven (Romans34's assertion) ... the question of when it first rained is really irrelevant. If it rained before the Flood, that's not directly a reason to exclude the possibility of waters coming from the 3rd heaven, for those...
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    Scripture Based Flat Earth Proposition

    Fair enough. As you point out, and I completely agree, the question of whether it rained before the Flood-rains doesn't answer the question of if the Flood waters came from the 3rd heaven. I've presented to you the scriptural indications, logic and our-knowledge-of-creation reasons of why, if...
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    Scripture Based Flat Earth Proposition

    I thought I did answer that question. You already know where water from rain comes from. There's a constant cycle of water evaporating from the earth's surface, rising into the sky, condensing in clouds and then raining back onto the earth. Rain is a miraculous redistribution system. It can...
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    Scripture Based Flat Earth Proposition

    Yes, thank you for that, Gary. I agreed completely with you that the sky is part of the firmament. To any extent I thought the sky was not a part of the firmament, I was mistaken. Thank you gently restoring me. I'm saying, in my reply to Romans34, I was trying to point out that Genesis applies...
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    Scripture Based Flat Earth Proposition

    Thank you, dear brother, Romans34! It's always excellent to speak to a brother who is straight forward as opposed to deflecting and one who is reasonable. Your question is the obvious question. Together we have scripture and all that the Lord gave us to understand it. Scripture reads: Gen...
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    Who is to blame for the latest Isreal Palestine war really ?

    Matthew 5:9 Blessed are the peacemakers, for they shall be called sons of God. James 3:17 But the wisdom from above is first pure, then peaceable, gentle, reasonable, full of mercy and good fruits, unwavering, without hypocrisy. Hebrews 12:14 Pursue peace with all men, and the sanctification...