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    Has a lie crept in to our bible Does God allow demons to torment people

    A word to the wise. Don’t get sucked in to the vortex that masquerades as constructive discourse with our friend here, they have ALOT of time on their hands. A selective approach to discourse when the point fails to support their agenda or narrative, and a passionate yet convoluted way to...
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    Has a lie crept in to our bible Does God allow demons to torment people

    I think your missing the point, inspiration is what and how the information is recounted and shared, Did the Holy Spirit have a hand in how people chose to treat Jesus 🤷🏼, I don’t know, is the account of that interaction true, as to the form it took and how it’s written down in the Bible? yes it...
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    predestination vs freewill

    The thief repented by accepting that he was guilty and Jesus was innocent
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    predestination vs freewill

    Every scripture you quoted is correct of course including your use of tense, Eternity is guaranteed for all the reasons you give, yet there are not isolated unconditional promises, Eternity is conditional on our acceptance of the requirements for it to be attributed to us, we need to repent...
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    Has a lie crept in to our bible Does God allow demons to torment people

    It is So good to see that you always took care to give the Lord Jesus his honorific, I enjoyed reading your post more so because if, thank you
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    Has a lie crept in to our bible Does God allow demons to torment people

    Brother you don’t have to believe me that the word of God is perfect, or that the Holy Spirit wrote the Bible, all I can do is answer you honestly as I see it, rather instead of asking us mere mortals, go directly to God, and ask him, you are saved yes, you have the Holy Spirit indwelling you...
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    Has a lie crept in to our bible Does God allow demons to torment people

    Both you and I believe Demons can posses someone against there will and force that person to act according to the Demons direction yes? So if a supernatural being can fully control an unprotected human in every way by force, can God being the ultimate supernatural being not do the same, when...
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    Has a lie crept in to our bible Does God allow demons to torment people

    Yes Men/Scribes we’re the tools used to physically write the word down on papayas or whatever, but what they wrote was inspired by God “Holy Spirit” Inspired adjective aroused, animated, or imbued with the spirit to do something, by or as if by supernatural or divine influence:
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    Has a lie crept in to our bible Does God allow demons to torment people

    This reply was explicitly specific to the response it was attached to not your entire conversation with the bloke.
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    Has a lie crept in to our bible Does God allow demons to torment people

    2 Peter 1: 20-21 KJV 20 Knowing this first, that no prophecy of the scripture is of any private interpretation. 21 For the prophecy came not in old time by the will of man: but holy men of God spake as they were moved by the Holy Ghost. 2 Timothy 3:16 KJV 16 All scripture is given by...
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    Has a lie crept in to our bible Does God allow demons to torment people

    Hi as to this verse 9 “Does Job fear God for nothing?” Satan replied. 10 “Have you not put a hedge around him and his household and everything he has? You have blessed the work of his hands, so that his flocks and herds are spread throughout the land. 11 But now stretch out your hand and strike...
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    Has a lie crept in to our bible Does God allow demons to torment people

    Ok mate, I came late to this party so forgive me for missing this verse, that you say were Satan is talking and being defended, that Jesus does not, please don’t post another novella just the verse in question and a brief description of your concern. Thank you
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    Has a lie crept in to our bible Does God allow demons to torment people

    We need friends like that tho every Nemo needs a Dory, That’s why God gifted me with my beautiful wife, we’re I’m brash and opinionated she’s the perfect counterpoint of demure and approachable, thank the Lord for his wisdom.
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    Has a lie crept in to our bible Does God allow demons to torment people

    Wow don’t you just hate it when you re-read your post and it’s sounds like your an arrogant tool. Ermm my bad 😣
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    Has a lie crept in to our bible Does God allow demons to torment people

    My reasoning is valid as is your position, I’m not disputing your approach, different strokes for different folks, just so were clear, I’m not diminishing the superiority of the Holy Spirit, and that his words can and does flow from our mouths as and when He wishes, my sword works just fine lol...
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    Has a lie crept in to our bible Does God allow demons to torment people

    Your latter point is correct, well I will concede to all your points to a point, “there is no need” and how do you know that without knowing the individual your addressing? When a atheist argues with you about your definition of the validity of scripture, do you counter this with more scripture...
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    predestination vs freewill

    There is a difference yes between Free Will and omnipotents I’ve never claimed that one equates the other, of course human free will is contained, by a number of various factors wether this be directly applied by God or part of the mechanics he placed to govern this world, and it’s automation...
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    Has a lie crept in to our bible Does God allow demons to torment people

    Your being unfair there, you are correct that we shouldn’t offer an honorific to blasphemous text, and personally I wouldn’t ascribe Holy to the book or prophet to the Man, but billions of people do, de_emerald did retract his statement and apologized for the mistake, how about we extend some...
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    Has a lie crept in to our bible Does God allow demons to torment people

    I disagree, there is a case for being informed, so that we can use that information to refute a belief system, our faith and knowledge of our own faith and belief system shouldn’t quail at the thought of investigation a false one, of course you can refute others on the strength of Gods...
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    Has a lie crept in to our bible Does God allow demons to torment people

    Mathew 4 “If you are the Son of God,” When a question is actually a statement it doesn’t require punctuation, as in this case, this question is not a direct question it is a rhetorical question, ergo a statement. Satan attempts to use our own weakness to fulfill his wants, in this case it’s...